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Old 08-06-12, 07:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Glass Aquariums
They don't hold any humidity or temperature, they can be escaped easily unless the proper clips are purchased.
Also cleaning is a problem because of the weight of the glass and they are very fragile. Also they offer almost no security for the reptile.
They are mad for fish not reptiles, Don't use them, either buy a tub or make a custom enclosure.

I'm in the center of this one. While I agree that they are horrible for most species, some animals do alright in them when set up properly.
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wow this thread is picking up some steam.

Great posts everyone.
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I'm in the center of this one. While I agree that they are horrible for most species, some animals do alright in them when set up properly.
Glass aquariums are perfectly fine for things like garter snakes, milk snakes, corns, Anoles, geckos, and such.

I have a dedicated reptile room, so "traffic" in front of the cages is minimal, and I use plywood to make tops for escape artists.

The whole room is climate controlled, so holding in heat is no issue here, and they do look good when set up on shelves.
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I would say they are dangerous to most reptile species save for a few exceptions. They should never be used for snakes or lizards with very specific requirements. My 0.02
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Sand for beardies and geckos
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I would say they are dangerous to most reptile species save for a few exceptions. They should never be used for snakes or lizards with very specific requirements. My 0.02
Now that much I agree on.

And not everyone has a heated reptile room to put them in.

I specialize in Thamnophis (Rare Garter snakes) that can live from central America to Alaska, so the tanks work fine for them.

However, when I see tropical/rainforest animals in fish tanks, it infuriates me.
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There's nothing wrong with actual sand (not Calci-sand) for certain species of reptiles. Sand alone doesn't cause impaction. Dehydration does.
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certain species, like uros and desert iggies, but not leo geckos, beardies, or even desert snakes.
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Now that much I agree on.

And not everyone has a heated reptile room to put them in.

I specialize in Thamnophis (Rare Garter snakes) that can live from central America to Alaska, so the tanks work fine for them.

However, when I see tropical/rainforest animals in fish tanks, it infuriates me.
That was what I was try to get at, thanks
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Leopard geckos, bearded dragons, and some species of snakes do VERY well on it. Wayne, may I post an RF link?
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Leopard Gecko Sand Impaction X-rays
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i'm going to have to disagree with you. it may not happen often, but it still happens.
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pine tree sap or any type of pine oil etc can be harmfull to carpet pythons

also i have personally found and read on,morelia dedicated forums,that aspen can sometimes cause mild respiritory issues,folk think it may be down to,the high dust content in the aspen,available here in Scotland

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P.S.sorry if this was a lizard only related thread
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Again, sand itself doesn't cause impaction. Dehydration causes it. A perfectly healthy, hydrated bearded dragon can swallow and pass sand without complication because sand, when wet, doesn't bind. It breaks up. This is purely fact.

Shaun, this is definitely not a lizard only related thread. Thanks for sharing! I don't use aspen simply because it molds so easily.
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However, when I see tropical/rainforest animals in fish tanks, it infuriates me.
When done right, its not an issue. I kept my BRB in a glass aquarium for several months with no issue. I'll agree it shouldn't be recommended to anybody but it can serve well in a pinch when set up correctly and sealed.
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Re: Dangerous pet products that should never be used for pets

I use a tank for my bp...as long as i put a towel on top and have a heat lamp set on super low, it keeps heat and humidity just fine. Just gotta know how to work with it ;D
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