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Old 07-20-10, 03:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Should Herpers be licensed??

Just a thought - I read this post on another forum -

" I have 1 3yr old corn, 2 2yr old corns and 2 1yr old corns in the same tank. I just noticed one of them laying eggs what should i do"

After giving the idiot a bollocking i got to thinking that maybe some sort of exam based license would be a good idea?

Interested in your thoughts.........
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Old 07-20-10, 04:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd support licensing for giant boids, similar to our venomous licensing here in FL, instead of the ban that was enacted.
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I don't think it would fly.....

for one, drivers need licensing, yet they run over other people every day.
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Old 07-20-10, 07:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I support licensing (like dog licensing) and mandatory rfid tagging of giants and venomous.

If there's a 16 foot python eating neighborhood pets, I think they should know who to blame.
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i like the idea, i dont mind having one for my burm and retics, but not everyone is going to like the idea or fellow the law to get one...you cant make people do things.
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licensed no maybe a competency test but i feel like that about most things in live, like having children, there should be a mandatory test and if you fail no kids for you. some thing for snakes.
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After "Giving the idiot a bollocking"? ??
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Re: Should Herpers be licensed??

RFID is the way to go imo, but who's going to pay for it? and what if the species is small or too small to be chipped at the time? who's to say they will get their animal chipped later? theres obviously a lot of debate about this topic, but at least make en effort right?
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After "Giving the idiot a bollocking"? ??
Well - keeping 5 snakes of differing ages/sizes/sex's in the same tank with no thought that they might breed? Got to be kinda stupid imo.

He has been asked what size teh "tank" is that they are in - personally i am hoping its huge but........
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No offence mate really, but keeping more than a single male in one enclosure isn`t much different as far as not taking consequences into consideration, and I don`t remember anyone giving you a "bollocking" when you decided not to listen anyone`s advise? As I say, no offence, I`m not trying to be horrible or anything but......
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Re: Should Herpers be licensed??

We have a license system here, but it also fails as all you have to do in victoria is pay the money and you can own olives, scrubs, bhp's and nearly all the rest of the pythons. As for the advanced license ( to own vens and gtp, womas and the likes ) all you do is pay the extra $100 a year and be 18 years old. This license allows anyone at 18 being able to go out and buy an inland taipan or eastern brown. To me this puts a lot of pressure on the sellers of the snakes as you are the one who will be blamed when a new kid dies by venomous snake bite. I already go over everyone thoroughly but some people can talk the talk and look a lot older. This presents the problem of only selling deadly animals to extremely limited people, which in turn means less money for breeders. You can do a brief check on their abilities, but i refuse to sell from my house which destroy's any chance i personally have at a self test.
All in all licenses are useless without mandatory testing and checkup's by competent people from your authorities and the likely hood of that happening is zero.
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Yeeeeah unfortunatly that`s the way it is isn`t it. Governments make such a pigs arse of things any I`m glad they don`t really have much of an involvment in our hobby really, once they start they`ll be taxing the piss out of us left right and centre anyway. Saying that though, I once had a friend who kept raptors, he had buzzards I think it was. He was inspected yearly and had to have all sorts of inspections of facilities and what not before he could kep them so there is something similar already done, in this country at least. It would be nice to not have to read about people buying snakes they can`t look after and people keeping exotics in rediculous conditions. If a licence were to be imposed I think I`d like to see some sort of structure that prevents ownership of mid level snakes until some lower level animals had been kept for a period of time, trainers if you will, same with going from mid to higher levels. Buying a Cornsnake, owning it for a month and then getting bored with it and thinking you`re ready for a Blood python just because "the Corn snake seemed fine" is something I`d like to see controlled amoung other things but as everyone is saying, it`s just not going to happen is it and it`s probably for the best going on the mess governments make of things anyway.....
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No offence mate really, but keeping more than a single male in one enclosure isn`t much different as far as not taking consequences into consideration, and I don`t remember anyone giving you a "bollocking" when you decided not to listen anyone`s advise? As I say, no offence, I`m not trying to be horrible or anything but......
I hear what your saying and no offence taken. However, i don't mix snakes of differing ages/sizes/sex's together that is just asking for trouble imo.

Have got further info about the "housing" for these snakes today - they are in a 4ft tank giving approx 16sq ft of space for the 5 snakes!!
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I`m glad no offence is taken Different ages doesn`t really matter as long as there are no neonates in with adults or anything it`s really not a biggy. A bit silly yes, I can see that the person hasn`t even considered what would happen of course, but that wasn`t my point. In this case space is FAR less an issue than the fact he might have multiple males in with females, that`s the main issue, more than one male in an enclosure. Space wise, yeah you wouldn`t really be able to tell who`s doing what poo and if one gets an infectious disease they all get it but a four foot tank with five Corns in it doesn`t shock me, it`s not the best idea but I`d be more worried about there being multiple males before I was concerned about anything else, and yes, there is a small list of things to be concerned about. If they were all females and it wasn`t a permenant solution I would see no huge problem. Temporarely anyway. As you know, I`m happy to keep a couple of females together, just not males because I`ve seen what happens when you do that. Regardless of what I think, I can`t say I`d ever "Bollock" anyone for something I consider to be wrong when I could so easily be verbally attacked myself for being happy to keep two females together which plenty of people disagree with. My point is, nice forums are hard to find because so many people are willing to verbally attack others for "doing it wrong" Although it does seem this person hasn`t cared enough or been intelligent enough to have thought things through at all, "Bollocking" people for not doing things the way you would do things just leads forums full of proper ogres that all argue and attack each other all the time. I`d just about given up looking for a forum for that reason when I stumbled across this one which is pretty much full of gentlemen (With the odd exception I`ll gentlemanly skirt over) That was my point said in a little more detail now I know I`m not upsetting anyone
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. My point is, nice forums are hard to find because so many people are willing to verbally attack others for "doing it wrong" Although it does seem this person hasn`t cared enough or been intelligent enough to have thought things through at all, "Bollocking" people for not doing things the way you would do things just leads forums full of proper ogres that all argue and attack each other all the time. I`d just about given up looking for a forum for that reason when I stumbled across this one which is pretty much full of gentlemen (With the odd exception I`ll gentlemanly skirt over) That was my point said in a little more detail now I know I`m not upsetting anyone

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