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06-18-08, 10:00 PM
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Random snake death?
my male bullsnake was in perfect condition yesterday, very healthy and eating regularly. Today i saw that he was dead.
i have no idea what could have caused this. Any ideas?? 
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06-19-08, 08:35 PM
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Re: Random snake death?
How long did you have the snake? Where did it come from? Tell us details of this "healthy" animal.
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06-20-08, 07:39 AM
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Re: Random snake death?
i got the snake about a year ago from a local breeder when he was about 2 months old
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06-20-08, 09:18 AM
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Re: Random snake death?
More details. Feeding schedule? Husbandry aspects? Temperatures, how you were keeping it. Do you have other snakes? Did you recently get any new animals?
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06-22-08, 03:53 PM
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Re: Random snake death?
feeding on one pinky mouse every Monday, hadnt missed a feeding. i have one juvi carpet python and a Bp. the hot side of his cage was 75-85 cool side was 60-68.
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06-22-08, 07:58 PM
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Re: Random snake death?
I believe the hot side should be around 105, for proper digestion, and cool side should be 75-80.
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06-23-08, 12:32 AM
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Re: Random snake death?
105 for a bullsnake?! You'd probably roast the bugger. It probably could stay higher than 75 though, and the cool side SHOULD be higher, that's pretty cold for a snake.
Also, how big around was this snake? maybe you starved it to death with a single pinky per week.
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06-23-08, 01:58 PM
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Re: Random snake death?
Majorly under fed for sure no doubt about it. 1 pinky a week?  That would be OK for the first couple feedings. A pinky is a small meal even for a fresh hatched Bullsnake. Could have died from developmental issues due to lack of proper nutrition (IE: lack of food). A yearling Bullsnake should be eating 2-3 good sized hoppers a week, not 1 pinky. A pinky would be OK for the first couple meals of its life, but thats it. The snake was starving Man, Mark
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06-23-08, 02:03 PM
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Re: Random snake death?
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Originally Posted by DaVincisCode
I believe the hot side should be around 105, for proper digestion, and cool side should be 75-80.
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Just what type of snake are you talking about here? No snake in my experience (going on 10 years, 100s of snakes) requires temps over 95F TOPS ever. A BP should be 80-85F cool side & 90-95F hotside this applies to most all Boids except those that require cooler temps than that. Most NA Colubrids are good at 65-75F cool side & 80-85F hotside. Mark
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06-23-08, 06:48 PM
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Re: Random snake death?
I knew the hot side was too high as well as the cold side was too cold. I didn't know exact numbers so thank you Mark for putting them up for me.
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06-23-08, 10:13 PM
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Re: Random snake death?
this was a small snake and couldnt take anyhting larger than a pinky, i offered fuzzies but they were too big for him to completely swallow.
Last edited by snake13; 06-23-08 at 10:19 PM.
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06-24-08, 08:57 AM
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Re: Random snake death?
Yah, because you underfed the snake.
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