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Old 09-21-04, 11:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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And you are all welcome to join STAR, Save The Alberta Rats - a society started by myself, years ago, to save the endangered Alberta Rat. We are against the prosecution of the Alberta Rat, and are lobbying to have it considered a threatened and protected species in Alberta.

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Is that why everyone in the prairies votes Conservative?
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Also, wasn't the university's rat permit pulled either because....

a) students let rats go as a stunt

b) some that weren't fully dead yet, were sent out in the trash and thrived at the Calgary dump?

c) both above are true

One of the articles mentions their fear that some will make it to the dump, which makes me wonder if it isnt' b or c.

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B is correct, but they did not have their permit yanked...just came damned close to it.
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And what exactly are these "unpublished leads"?


What I was told in personal discussions with some of the investigators.

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Next thing we're going to hear that it was members of the Chinese community smuggling rats in for exotic dishes.
No, that was bullfrogs, and both shops were fined several years back.

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If you don't have REAL evidence to back up your claims, keep your slanderous mouth shut. It isn't helping ANYBODY to throw blame around.
If you live in Ontario and don't have even a tenuous grasp on the situation here, much less any actual facts, you may wish to shut your mouth before you ram your foot any deeper into it.
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You have no proof to back up your claims, none of your so called "actual facts",and therefore could be just passing the buck.

If you said "I talked to Constable so and so, with the X detachment" so your statements could be checked that's one thing, but you didn't.
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I was unaware that anyone would really care about names, etc, but, for the record, Bill Bruce, head of Calgary Animal Control Services, and John Bourne from Alberta Agriculture.

And, as you can see from today's news, what I said is true, and ironically, mentioned is made of Asian food, something I had nothing to do with.

http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgar...e-7052b40c81d1
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Thanks.

I was already in a snappy mood, so I apologize, and this new information validates what you were saying in the first place. The danger in not providing backup info is that any "journalist" can come along and read us accusing rat breeders and crucify them, or encounter the same thing on a rat breeder forum where they blame us, and suddenly it's news.

The blame game is strong here in Ontario right now regarding Pit Bull ownership and some of the most ridiculous assumptions make it into the news because conflict between groups makes for good "human interest". Argh.
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That's very big of you Mike.. Good to see you can own up to your mistakes.. Now EVERYONE, no one else needs to 'shut their mouth' no more mouth shutting... Let's keep this thread on the forums and not banished to where none of you can view it..

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Well the medias on this like flys to ... I myself was awoken this morning by Michelle McDougal an A Channel reporter (local news stn.) She had lots of questions & wanted to come to my house with a camera crew & do an interview within the hour of the call. She had already called others as well. Long story short I declined & Christian will be on the news tonight. He is going down to the station with a Boa I beleive & some frozen feeder Rats to appease them with an interview. If I had beleived that it would have been good media coverage or wasn't just woke up with an hours notice, I would have let them come as I have nothing to hide, but with all this bad press already I didn't want to be part of it & I'm not really what some people would consider politically correct looking LOL I think it more appropriate that Chrisian deal with them as a board member of the TARAS society & rescue than myself as a private snake breeder. As already stated we have been drug into this enough already & her interest was rats not snakes & she wanted something RIGHT NOW not tomorrow when I suggested may be more appropriate for a camera crew to show up at my house. I'll be glad when this all blows over anyhow & hopefully us Herpers reps won't be any more damaged then they already have been as a direct result of this incident. Mark
P.S. BTW Ryan I need some more Live Rats now eh! JOKING
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How about a pack of feral Jack Russel terriers? We could release a pack into the wild for rat control! Oh but wait those poor chickens. What if we got Dobermans to control the Jack Russels.........oh nevermind.
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Shut the hell up, Matt. Who asked you?



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I knew it was just a matter of time.. Maybe i'll slap your name up on the bad list now :P LOL.. Just playing of course..
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