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Old 09-10-04, 04:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cat Torture Film?

Ive been reading news snippets tonight about some big controverisal documentary in which 3 young men torture and kill a stray cat, which apparently they are going to show at the Toronto International Film Festival, despite the outrageous protests from just abuout every animal rights group you can think of. Apparently the deal is, they left out the really hideous parts for the documentary itself, but there is an existing tape which includes the actual gory torture and death. I'm all for artistic freedom and all that, but it saddens me to think we can now consider animal torture a subject worthy of the label of 'art."

If this is for real, these kids deserved more than house arrest IMHO.


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Old 09-10-04, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Reading that story actually made me cry... to think that an animal, minding his own business in the world, could have such a horrible death in the hands of humans, who think this is artistic expression??

Humanely putting an animal down, and torturing it, by forcing it to endure horrible pain by being skinned and disemboweled alive are too very different things... I can't even believe that Power's lawyer actually argued that this film was "made as an art project showing it was hypocritical for society to kill some animals for meat, but not others." Did they eat the cat after beheading it?? Even farm hogs and cows go quickly.

I think I'm going to be sick. I am really going have to work hard at composing myself here at work...

What a sad, sad story. This isn't however, the first time animals have been killed as "art". A few years back there was a man who killed rats and mice by placing them on a canvas (laid on a flat surface), and squashed them with a heavy object (the details are murky). He actually preserved and sold the dead rats on canvas as art. Even still, his rats wouldn't have suffered as much as this cat did...
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Sick people.
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That's NOT art---but quite clearly the work of three very sick and disturbed HEARTLESS morons. Shame on the T.I.F.F. for even considering viewing this kind of cruelty.

Makes me ill.....
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...I really hope they suffer from regret and guilt of their actions for the rest of their natural lives.
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Eye for an eye is what I say.

They should be put through what the cat was put through.

No more, no less.

I'll film that and make a f***in documentary about it. Oh wait, isn't that called 'SNUFF'?

I'd pay to see a film where these three degenerates get tortured and killed for what they have done!
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Killing an animal for a justifiable reason can go, even thought it is sad, but killing one for no good reason with sadistic ways and meant cruelty is one INHUMANE thing!!! A cat or a pet is defenseless towards humans, if i ever find someone mistreating voluntarily an animal in such a way, i think i might go out of my mind... That would get me in such a rage ( i'm actually never angry and never hurt anybody ) that i would surely injure the guy severely and there would be nothing in the law to protect me... Hope this never happens. If you don't love animals, then just leave them be as they are with you.

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How can torturing and killing an animal be considered art? Those men are a despicable excuse for human beings and they should not be allowed to show such a distasteful and disgusting display. I hope the animal rights groups and others eat them alive. Something like this enrages me and makes me want to vomit.

I mean, what's next for them? Will they move up to torturing and killing human beings for the sake of 'art'? They're a bunch of sick, twisted sadists, and should be incarcerated.
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Killing an animal for a justifiable reason can go, even thought it is sad, but killing one for no good reason with sadistic ways and meant cruelty is one INHUMANE thing!!!
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How can torturing and killing an animal be considered art?
The question becomes "Is art a justifiable reason to kill an animal?" It would seem logical that the answer would be no. But following the mentality of the video makers, "Is fashion a justifiable reason to kill an animal and wear its skin?" and to follow this up, "Is the taste of animal flesh a reason to kill an animal?" Let's be honest, even many of our food animals suffer a great dead before they are killed (e.g.: factory farmed chickens - think KFC; MUCH seafood).
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Can anyone find out the location of the theatre that this film is being screened at on Tuesday at 6:00 pm? Maybe a bit of a scene needs to be made in front in order to demonstrate that this kind of "art" or whatever they call it, is NOT acceptable. There is a time to be politically correct and defend the rights and freedoms of individuals but there's also a time for good people to take a stand and say that enough is enough. We don't have to sit back and accept despicable actions such as profitting from the skinning and disembowlment of an innocent creature.

If anyone could find a location for that screening time, that would be great.

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I agree- I thought petitions and an onslought of emails from the public at large might make TIFF rethink its decision.

I agree that animals are indeed killed in inhumane ways for fashion and food, but at least those animal death's in some ways have a legitimate function. Moreover, this glorifies the intentional act of torturing (not simply slaughtering) the animal for NO functional reason whatsoever, other than to have it on film. That to me is completely unjustifiable.
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The men defended the video for a school project as a work of art -- a comment on the death and suffering of animals used for meat.

During their trial, courtroom spectators were brought to tears when the gruesome tape was shown.

Ontario Court Judge Ted Ormston told the courtroom he didn't sentence the men to the maximum time allowed because he felt their crime was not the worst offence possible.

A Toronto detective said the 17-minute videotape was the most difficult thing he has ever watched


wonder what the 'worst offence possible' is? how much worse could've it have gotten?!

stupid judge.
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When I first read that, I thought it was a hoax... even though the website doesn't look like one to hold hoaxes. A couple google searches for hoax busting websites, and apparently this is a true story.

The people who did that, are putrid beyond words. I wish the "eye for an eye" punishment was legal. I can't believe that three people could do that as a school project- the fact that they carried out the torture shows that they are DEFINITELY sick. They aren't young enough to be excused as foolish young guys, they are adults. Now I'm so angry... I want to go open my window and swear really really loudly.

And as for the Toronto International Film Festival- they deserve to be tortured the same as the people who made the film. Heartless b*st*rds.


I hate people... people are so stupid, and cruel... they should all have their eyes impaled by pickle-forks.
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