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Old 09-09-04, 10:04 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This child's father doesn't have to LIKE reptiles as pets, but he should respect and nurture his daughter's interests in them.

The pluses of owning reptiles:

1.) Many are small, require very little space for housing.

2.) Are hypoallergenic; many people with allergies to cats and dogs find reptiles non-offensive to their bodies.

3.) Are easier to care for.

4.) Eat less, and less often than mammals.

5.) Are easily handled... many leos, beardies and snakes are docile and suitable for occassional handling by children, under supervision, of course.

6.) Live longer than most gerbils, rats and mice. Many reptiles have the same life expectancy of cats or dogs, if not more.

It's a shame that this girl's father wants to push his own 'wants' in front of hers. Personally, I think a nice tortoise would fit into this situation. Many people who dislike reptiles in general often are open to turtles and tortoises. Tortoises also eat primarily vegetation, and easily cared for. A tortoise can become a lifelong friend if cared for properly.

Please update us and let us know what they decide on...

P.S. Didn't read above replies, so I apologize if I've repeated anything...
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Ferret They are nice pets.

As for the ones that say get her the snake.....I would be sure to ge somthing the father would agree with as the child is only turning 7 years old. And it would probably be the father caring for this pet as a 7 year old can forget all about the pet as somthing new catches their eye.

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Another point... make sure you consult with the father before purchasing anything... you want to make sure he approves the gift, and will be able to provide it with all the neccessary items the new pet will require.

I love ferrets, but they stink, and get into everything!! =)
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Old 09-09-04, 01:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Not all Ferrets STINK, but they do still have a skunky smell to them even when operated it just isn't as foul. Our little girl is a doll but not all ferrets are friendly too, they have to be taught at a young age not to bite or they will grow up to be biters. And yes, they are very hyper and get into everything. Ferrets are also very high mantainence. They need to be cleaned at least every 3 days and they need their nails clipped often or they can scratch rather deep. Not perposely but being so active when you try to hold them they just want to move. Ferrets sleep about 18 hours a day so when they are awake they make up for it. lol. They also need a large cage with a litter in it and lots of toys and out time. Our ferret has her own room with patio doors so we can watch her when she is out. She is an awesome pet but I couldn't see my 9 year old caring for her soley.

Oh, and when they poo it stinks! only for a little while but if your in the same room you know! lol. That is why the frequent cleaning of the litter.
If he wants to go mammal I'd go with a rat (I know he doesn't like them but if you get them small enough they are cute and you can get used of them rather quickly) or a baby cockateil. Teils are awesome pets too, if they are alone they usually dont make much noise and can come out for play. My guys stay on top of their cage from about 9:30 am till 9pm and they rarely ever come off on their own. They have everything they need right there, perches to play on food, water, latters to climb, and toys to play with. Setting up a nice bird cage is a bit costly though but so is a cage for any herp that needs uvb.
I also like chinchillas but I wouldn't recomend these as pets for younger children eithor as they can be really nervous animals.
Please let us know what he decides. Too bad the dad wasn't more open minded about rats or snakes, they make excellent pets.
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Its really ashame he doesnt like rats! They make awesome pets! I just love my girls!



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Old 09-10-04, 10:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Beautiful rats!! Cute photo...

I like 'Teils too, but about them being noisy... My mom owns a female named Cookie, and she is the noisiest bird I know... she's completely alone, but loves to coo, scream and screech. She is spoiled, so we all assume her racket is just begging for attention... She is NOT quiet at all!! LOL

Like I said previously, I think a cute box turtle, or a smaller species of tortoise would work well in this situation, considering all the factors...

I hope this girl and her father can come to terms and compromise on a pet they'll both enjoy... =)
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thanks for your suggestions and ideas every one. the hedgie idea is out, i dont know too much about them but it doesn't seem like much of a child's pet any more. i still think the best pet for her would be a corn snake but i'm really gonna have to talk to her dad about that-see, he doesn't know any thing at all about snakes, if i can just talk to him and teach him some things i hope he'll feel a little better about them.

i was thinking about an adult leopard gecko though. they eat alot less than babies and are probably easier to handle (my baby is still really jumpy, even tried to bite me the other night).

but theres also the fact that her father is VERY busy, always gone in other parts of the country doing big business things and she is busy too, goes to school, does alot of after school activities and more. i think maybe she should get something really simple at first like a little newt so all she'd really have to do is clean and feed it's little home.

if she doesn't take care of it well, i know she needs a while before she should get into any thing else, if she does, then thats great, maybe she could get the snake or the lizzard or whatever.
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Perhaps you should re-think a gift idea for your young friend... It seems like the animal won't be going to a very experienced home, and as much as I'd hate to say it, many kids get bored once a pet loses it's 'newness'. Just a thought...

Also, that last comment you made gave me the idea that you don't really care what happens to the animal after it leaves your custody...

"if she doesn't take care of it well, i know she needs a while before she should get into any thing else, if she does, then thats great"
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actually i care more about the pet she gets than her, i am much more of an animal person than a people person (just throwing out things to prove my point) i dont eat animals and i do not tolerate any abuse towards animals.

after i said "if she doesn't take care of it well" i think i should have added i'll ask for her to give it to me because i'll tell her it might die and i'll take care of it for her.

no matter what animal she gets i want to go to her house more often and see how its doing, help her clean it and feed it if she needs help.

if her father doesn't help her i'll talk to him about that and ask him to do something else for it.

the animals are more important to me than any thing else in the world.
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I appreciate your thoughts, and you seem sincere, but I am also wondering why you seem to be 'pushing' this gift on this girl and her father.

If he is a single father (and it sounds like he is) this could be one more straw on the camel's back, so to speak. He's probably got enough stresses and worries.

Maybe you could just buy an animal and keep it at YOUR place, so the girl has benefit of owning the pet SHE prefers without actually having to move it into her father's house. That way you can also supervise her with the animal, and show her how to care for it. You can also make sure the animal eats, stays warm and healthy...
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I'm not too sure how much of a pet this is for younger people but I find it takes less care then my any of my other pets except for my Armadillo Lizard, and thats a Crested Gecko. If feeding is going to be a possible problem like its said in previous post they eat a very little amount of crickets, my male eats about 4-5 everyother day, and loves his baby food/crested gecko good mix which they need very little of. In my oppinion as far as maintenence goes Cresties are very easy to care for. All I do is change the substrate three times weekly since I use paper towels, and give him his new food and water. They dont like to be held a whole lot but if occasional handeling and fun to watch pet is what she wants this is a good idea, besides their adorable.

However Beardies are great pets for kids I'm teaching my 3 old sister to care for lizards when she comes over, and so far she's managed to hold my two beardies and my brothers beardie perfectly. She knows all the do's and dont's and follows them all the time when she has one of them but for some reason when she free roams she feels the need to bring a dog in the room and that bothers me a bit but she learned that lesson finally too.

Also Blue Tongues are great I know of a 10 yr old whos caring for a 2 yr old Skink and requires very little assistance other than reaching some of the foods that are out of distance. They are also pretty docile.

Leopard geckos again, good choice.

But if her dad is strict about all this stuff I guess like someone above said a Turtle or Tortoise would be a great pet, and although in my oppinion boring now, when i was her age I loved my Hermit Crabs especially the different shell possibilties so possibly throw that idea their way.

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he is a single father so yeah, that does make things little worse. i'm not really tyring to push things, i just thought a pet would be really good for her sence shes very mature and loves animals (well she does have fish but i thought something she could actually hold would be better)

she does love my pets and i let her play with most of them when she comes over, thing is she doesn't come over often at all.

i think what i'll do is tell her father to rethink the whole idea of geting her a pet unless she would actually like something really simple to care for (like a hermit crab). i still wish he would let her get a corn snake or a rat because she seems like she'd do great with one.
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As it goes, alot of parents have restrictions on herps and other animals and will not change there minds... It is not cruel, it's just there house...

A box turtle is a very long living fun pet/slow pet. But box turtles require a large area to roam, humidity, they eat lots i have heard, and alot of uv lights
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Its really ashame he doesnt like rats! They make awesome pets! I just love my girls!



Those are very cute.
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Maybe I'm too late? How about Chinchillahs??

My thoughts: I'd nix the 'tiels and the ferret idea. Both require tons of attension. Ferrets are no different then ownin a puppy and they keep that engery into adulthood. Tiels or any bird really requires time, effort, lots of maintence and good base knowlege just like herps. You cannot go out an buy a bird with no workin knowlege. The animal wouldnt be very healthy. And the bigger facter. ALL birds have a tremendous lifespan and some can easily outlive a single person. Your typical finches will live a good 10-14 yrs believe it or not if cared for properaly. I dont believe the Father would want an animal older than him! LOL!! Since he sounds a bit picky with pet options.

Maybe also suggest havin the daughter and the FAther just talkin and writing down names of the animals they both agree on and single out ones they would want to care for on the list and purchase a book on the animal to read first.

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