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Old 08-23-04, 05:05 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I would definitely consider finding a new vet. There is absolutely no way anyone can tell if a snake is WC by examination. Any good vet would know this, especially coupled with the fact that absolutely nothing has been able to be legally exported from Australia in decades. Animals in pet stores can especially pick up some off the problems that WC animals may have, being housed in such close quarters with them, as well as shared equipment.
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Yup trev your case is rested I agree fully I also agree with linds time for a vet change. There are a few excellent reptile vets here in ontario and some keep or have kept various snakes including boids.


hahahahaha slipped post 500 in under the radar.


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just out of curiosity Hip, in one of your posts you quoted, it stated that Australia was considering lifting the ban, due to all the illegal importing that continues to go on, and hopefully make money off of it....so wouldn't it stand to reason that these animals are still available WC?

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While it is not a complete impossibility that some Aussie animals may be smuggled, it isn't likely that you will find one in a store. Pet stores have their sources, their regular distributors and private breeders that keep their shelves stocked. The most common Aussie animals that are in the pet trade have very little dollar value as well, such as Beardies and Spotted Pythons, and are easily enough reproduced in captivity, making smuggling these animals simply not worth it.
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I breed bearded dragons and I know where their lines are from. They were not cheap and they are all live and kicking. My female is going to lay her 6th clutch anytime here. I have noticed that down east they are selling them for anywhere from $20 - $50 per dragon and it is hard for people like myself to compete with that. Mine go for a fair $80 - $100 all depends on their coloring.

I do not like cheap people. I am looking for a gtp and I know that they are going anywhere from 900 to 1500 easy. You want a good pet then pay the price.
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Beardies are generally considered lower end animals. When I said they had little dollar value, that is in comparison to higher end animals, that some people may feel is worth the risk to smuggle. While some people may consider $100 or even $300 to be a decent enough price tag, that is still generally 'low end' on the markets scale.
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WOW, i want to live in BC! If your gas is cheaper than in the states, you are LUCKY. Even with conversion, we are paying over $2.30 a GALLON here in ontario and have for years,
That's cheaper than BC. We pay anywhere from 80 cents to 95 cents per litre! Even at 80 cents/litre, that's like $3.20 per gallon!!! I'm not sure who said we have cheaper gas than the US, but that is NOT true! Friends just got back from driving to Vegas. Every single place was $1.75US per gallon or cheaper.

A wild-caught spotted python? LOL! I needed that laugh. Tough day out here sifting silt and clay all day. WC spotted she says..... too funny.
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And no one is going to risk jail time to import a beardie or a spotted python, LOL!! These people would be smuggling Perentie's, Lacies, Blackheads, Chondros, etc etc. Not spotted pythons.
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not to mention many more Americans commute long distances and/or do much more highway driving resulting in much more fuel used.
Well actually, it's when you do your traveling on the highway that it's more economic for your car, when you always do town traveling, your fuel consumption almost doubles!!!

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Electricity and other energy is also much moreabundant in Canada, and is also less expensive.
Actually it's false. The Americans pay much less for their electricity even if it is our own they buy... They signed a contract many many years ago that the cost for electricity they imported from Canada wouln't budge for 100 years.... So at the moment they pay less than we do for our own cdn product...
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They pay less than you do in Montreal. BC is damn cheap for electricity. Like 6 cents per KW/h!! Try New York where its like 30 cents US (50 cents CDN) for a kilowatt!! Yikes.

Good call on the highway driving. For sure.
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I think we can consider the spotted topic closed. So let's all drop our sarcastic guns and move back on to how cheap we Canadians are.
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Well actually, it's when you do your traveling on the highway that it's more economic for your car, when you always do town traveling, your fuel consumption almost doubles!!!
We're talking about fuel usage, not efficiency here. If you drive 100 miles to work everyday instead 1, you're going to be using more gas no matter how fuel efficient your driving speed is. If you have to travel farther to work, you're going to end up spending more money on gas.
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To quantify the bit about show animals, when we were shopping for Sheltie's (for a family pet, not for show) it was standard that we sign off that we wouldn't be breeding the dog.

Is there alternative pricing possibly, which would make it different if you don't intend to show them?
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According to the CIA Factbook at CIA.gov, Americans have a GDP per Capita purchasing power of $37,800.

While Canada has one of $29,700.

That's an $8000 dollar a year difference in GDP value per person. And quite a bit of extra snake money for Americans.
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Is that $38K US compared to $29K CDN? If so, that's even MORE of a difference.
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