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Old 08-20-04, 09:49 AM   #76 (permalink)
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I think being addicted to MJ totally depends on the person. I've smoked MJ off and on for almost 20 years now and have gone many, many years without even so much as thinking about it. To the point where I'll be around friends who are smoking and have passed it up without so much as a thought. So with my own experience MJ is not addicting.

BUT, then there's my mother.... She is very addicted. She smokes from the time she gets out of bed right up until bedtime. She smokes to be normal. I think it's terribly sad. And in many ways feel as though I've lost the essence of her. When I was younger I used to get very angry with her because I could ~always~ tell when she had smoked, when she was high and it got to the point where I never saw her straight. She's lost and all I can do is accept that.

So it ~really~ depends on the person.

For me it's more like a plant that should be respected --like how the Native Americans view hallucinagenics-- used carefully and moderately.

For my mother--her use is out of control. She has no respect for herself or for the plant.
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Old 08-20-04, 09:53 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Herpslave, If what you said about marijuana addiction, and the effect legalization would have were true we would already have a burned out society, as there are a great many people who smoke it whether the law says they can or not.

These are not just people who work at McDonald's shoveling fries.

Doctors, lawyers, teachers. It's no different than those who partake of alcohol, or any other mind altering substance.

Some people turn to pot as a crutch, others turn to alcohol, or shopping. Heck, I know someone who would have been better off smoking weed to blow of steam as they are completely screwed financially because of compulsive shopping issues.

People should know their limits, and if they can't, seek help.

But I don't want the some politician telling me I can't do something in the privacy of my own home, simply because they do not agree with it. Be it drugs, kinky sex, or raising animals like our beloved herps.

So long as I do not violate your rights to live your life as you choose, then why should the government have any say in how I live mine.

As for the topic of driving mentioned in other posts, I support severe punishments for anyone involved in an accident while drunk, high, or talking on a cell phone. Cars are easily as dangerous as firearms, and should be handled responsibly when other people are at risk. So prosecute those who injuure others with the same zeal as those charged with firearms crimes.


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Old 08-20-04, 10:06 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Well if this is legalized for people with problems like arthritis, cancer, lekeumia or something that effects the joints and the mind. A person like this will be able to get 6 pounds!
Six pounds? Where do you get this figure from. I am sure the first thing on the mind of an 80 year old woman is selling pot to teenagers :P.
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Yeah that's ridiculous.

As far as driving goes, again cellphones probably cause more accidents at this point than marijuana does. There are no figures to back this up, but I think everyone knows someone who has had a problem either driving while talking on the phone, or a problem with someone else driving and on the phone. I don't hear too many wild car crashes due to marijuana at this point.

And while this is NOT TRUE for everyone, sometimes people I know drive while high, and in my circle of friends the opposite happens...they drive TOO SLOW! As we all know this can cause problems as well, but at least its not the swerving, high speed fatal crashes that booze causes.

Cruciform is SO right about his statement as well. If you think it's only "druggies" and Mcdonalds workers smoking pot, THINK AGAIN. Take this past weekend for instance....I actually ended up smoking with two people who both have HIGH level jobs....one for a MAJOR film company (canadian "branch") and the other works in government. Both smoke Marijuana on weekends sometimes, but in all other aspects these are hard working, normal, law abiding people.

It's NOT just losers and druggies who smoke people. WAKE UP! Marijuana is hiding in many more homes than you think. I believe just recently they stated that marijuana use is up by TONS in the past decade compared to the 1980's in Canada. Why? Personally I believe its because unlike booze, you can enjoy marijuana without feeling like crap the next day, without wanting to fight or wreck something, without having to go to smelly smokey bar....etc. It's a personal choice.

The government has NO RIGHT putting it's nose into people business. If I want to do something that does NOT harm anyone else, does not cause a public safety issue then BUTT OUT government!

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Old 08-20-04, 01:37 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Herpslave I respect your ideals but you should do some research if you are going to make a bold statement like that. Anyone who has tried pot knows that most of what you said is very biased and exaggerated.
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Old 08-20-04, 01:52 PM   #81 (permalink)
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oh-by the way-

My mother has a very respectible job in which she has held for over 20 years.

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Old 08-20-04, 02:26 PM   #82 (permalink)
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My friend james is a math teacher. My friend kace is a counselor. I don't know where you got from me that I said only low lifes smoke pot. But I did not mean to say that. My friends all have been so messed up by this crap that most of them were expelled from school, because of smoking it 3 times in school when being caught and warned first. 9 of my friends were expelled to be exact. Where they not only had to redo that grade but could not be in the district. So
they would have to just goto another school thats even more worse in security. So they can just do it outside at lunch anytime they want. On the 80 year old thing, some people are greedy.
My grandmother has quit mj. But has been selling it for 20 years! She is 83. Age does not really matter. It's the money factor. The feel of needing money, as someone else feels the need for weed. If something like this happened all over the world everywhere which would be very possible. Not everyone would smoke ofcoarse but a dense population would.
Symptoms I have seen are ghost spit, smell like weed, blood shot eyes, droopy eyes, burnouts, plain lazyness with all these symptoms, forgetting things like words, things to do and alot of other things.
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Old 08-20-04, 10:16 PM   #83 (permalink)
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My friend james is a math teacher. My friend kace is a counselor. I don't know where you got from me that I said only low lifes smoke pot. But I did not mean to say that. My friends all have been so messed up by this crap that most of them were expelled from school, because of smoking it 3 times in school when being caught and warned first. 9 of my friends were expelled to be exact. Where they not only had to redo that grade but could not be in the district
And you blame this on MJ? I blame it on sheer stupidity.
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Old 08-20-04, 10:28 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I blame it on both. Stupidity and mj.
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