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Old 08-19-04, 11:16 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I just want to knwo what gets you started? im 13 and have never had any inkling(my word :P ) of a thought to try it or any other drugs. (beleive me they are very eisy to buy) I just want to steer clear of this kinda thing. (for now )
A lot of time its peer pressure, curiosity, or a combination of the two. Think about a successful future, and remember that four years of highschool being 'cool' isn't worth throwing your life away. After highschool, these 'friends' who get you into this stuff have nothing to do with you, or your life, and the majority of the time you won't see eachother again. Keep that in mind.
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Old 08-19-04, 11:18 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I would say that driving under the influence of ANYTHING should negate your car insurance. This includes the greeen. For sure. If your judgement is impaired or slowed and you cause an accident, why the heck should the insurance (eventually the rest of the peeps buying the insurance) people have to pay? Being fried does impare judegement. People are bad drivers as it is, why make it legal to add another negative aspect to their driving. Just because it doesn't "kill" as many people as another substance/action, does that mean its just brushed aside? LOL! That's not really wise.

Assault kills less people than murder, so should assault be legal?
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Old 08-19-04, 11:39 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I'm not sure on the legalization issue at all...at first it seems like an ok things to legalize it...but once it is legalized do you think it will actually be safe for anyone to drive? I have personally used it in the past (and no longer use it), I had no trouble quitting therefore I do not find it addictive...but I wouldn't even think of driving while stoned. If it's legalized, chances are that cigarette companies will take up the responsibility of having it commercially available and possibly add a surefire addictive substance into it...
I feel alcohol is much worse then MJ...but that being said, I don't know if that is reason enough to legalize it, you have to take other things into consideration...that's all I can say on the issue without getting political...

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Old 08-19-04, 11:41 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I didn't read the whole post...Yet at least. It's too late at night and it would take forever.

As far as the gateway drug... i truly don't belive that. My first gateway drug was LMAO as typing this. It was when i was a child and i would spin and spin in circles then fall over and my head would be all dizzy, then when it passed i would do it all over again and again. People may think that's silly, but in reality that really is your first "high". Not only that next came chocolate (one of my personal faves) then caffine, all i know is don't talk to me until i have my first soda unless you wanna little attitude. So as far as MJ as a gateway drug i don't buy it!!! Then again that's just my opinion...

Also in my own opinion alchohol is so much worse than MJ. Don't feel like explain myself, cause i don't feel like bringing back old memories that i try to forget (HUGE family problems), but from my personal life experinces i HATE alchohol!!!! I can't stand to be around drunks nor would i chose to date one. I also havn't drank in over 5 years, since before my 21st b-day. I can't even go to bars or clubs anymore, cause all i do is get really pissed off and feel like strangling them. Maybe it's just me growing up or i just relized how much of an @$$ people are when they're drunk.

Anyway back to the subject, I think it should be legilized, but agian that's just me, i have my reasons but seeing as family members browse this site i can't really state my reasons incase they look over this thread. LOL

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Old 08-20-04, 12:26 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I'm not sure on the legalization issue at all...at first it seems like an ok things to legalize it...but once it is legalized do you think it will actually be safe for anyone to drive? I have personally used it in the past (and no longer use it), I had no trouble quitting therefore I do not find it addictive...but if it's legalized, chances are that cigarette companies will take up the responsibility of having it commercially available and possibly add a surefire addictive substance into it...just another thing to think about...
When Jeff mentioned that, I was going to say something, and now thats two people so why not. If you think clearly about what you are saying, it doesn't really make sense. People are smoking marijuana now, in an illegal state, and most likely there are some driving under the influence. Why would legalization increase the amount of drivers under the influence? I am sure laws would be similar to that of alchohol.
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I actually did a survey, including 250 people that supposedly do not smoke marijuana, for a school project...but it may not be accurate because some people just may not want to admit smoking marijuana, these were the 2 highest percentage answers:
1. They have no interest-46%
2. Fear of being caught by law/parents-42%
The other possible answer was "fear of becoming addicted" and it only got 12%.

They can measure how much alcohol you have drank, but drug tests only show whether you have used drugs or not, not how high you actually are, therefore the road laws themselves couldn't be similar...I can't see how they can form a "legal limit" because there is no way of measuring how much pot you have smoked.

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True, but with MJ, it is more of a you are either high or you aren't high type of thing, with alchohol its a different situation.
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I kind of disagree with that...as I said earlier, I have smoked pot in my past...and not exactly a small amount either...and there have been plenty of times where I just got a bit of a buzz from a small amount of pot, there also have been a few times where I have smoked quite a bit and had a lot of trouble avoiding simple objects in the middle of a floor such as a shoe... I've had friends tell me that they smoked so much they had problems even standing up...

To generalize and say either you are high or you aren't isn't really that accurate, it's just your personal experiences, but with my experiences, I have flat out found what you say to be untrue.

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My point was, if you have smoked any marijuana, you should not be driving. As opposed to with alchohol, there generally isn't a problem with having a beer then driving.
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People are smoking marijuana now, in an illegal state, and most likely there are some driving under the influence. Why would legalization increase the amount of drivers under the influence? I am sure laws would be similar to that of alchohol.
People are killing people in an illegal state right now. Legalize murder and I'd think that there's be a few more homocides, don't you think? Legalize pot smoking while driving, and insurance will go through the ROOF. And who pays? People that don't smoke up, because the people that do are all at home jones-n' for chips and chocolate bars. LOL!!

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My point was, if you have smoked any marijuana, you should not be driving. As opposed to with alchohol, there generally isn't a problem with having a beer then driving.
I agree with that fully, but unfortunately a lot of people that smoke pot do not...

I read my other post and feel that it may come off sort of offensive...I had not intended for it to be that way at all.
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the people that do are all at home jones-n' for chips and chocolate bars. LOL!!

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LOL!!
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Hahaha, Jeff only you can make me laugh at 3 in the morning. That analogy was over-doing it, common now, you can think of something better then that :P.

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Legalize pot smoking while driving, and insurance will go through the ROOF.
Sorry I think you misunderstood me, I meant that you would NOT be allowed to smoke and drive, and you would NOT be allowed to smoke in public aside from designated areas - similar to the laws on alchohol. Anyhow, NO POLITICS!
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How would they police whether or not you are driving stoned?

But I'm with the majority. Legalize it. And while we're at it, drop the legal drinking age to 16!!
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One thing I do not know or think anyone posted is that when someone with a disabilitty lthat allows some pot to be given. Well if this is legalized for people with problems like arthritis, cancer, lekeumia or something that effects the joints and the mind. A person like this will be able to get 6 pounds! This is more then enough to sell to pot smokers that have no disabilities or diseases... Which would lead to a large portion of curious or plain out stoners to spread the weed around allover. Where we would have a
very large portioj of this world could be stoners. I personally have seen my old friends back in higschool smoke bud alot, as well as seeing them do it in middleschool. I have rejected about over 40 times they have asked me... I personally would not like to live in a world full of stupid stoners that constantly thinking about there next hit... I do not put down people who smoke weed as I have over 12 friends who do this. Aswell as my family. But I just do not want to live in a world full of duhhh Wheres the joint type mostly every where... Pot is addictive. Kind of like sex. They are not something you would think would be addictive but it feels so good that you keep wanting more. Even if you think that you will quit
with ease it does not exactly happen that easily too much. I have watched all 12 of my friends have said oh I am done with pot... i just sell it now. But later in the next day or two they say hey man! Wanna finish this joinjt with me? I say hey I thought you quit. They say aww man I just gotta blow some steam off dude, I will quit in a week. Again they did it in less then the week. Any ways alot of this may seem offtopic in a way.
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