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Old 07-27-04, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Puff Adder" loose in South Huron

Another snakes story in the London Free Press this morning.

Why do I get the feeling that snake owners in Ontario are going to be completely screwed soon if we don't organize.



---story begins---

Pssssssssst! Snake alert


APRIL KEMICK, Free Press Reporter 2004-07-27 02:05:05


Spooked South Huron residents on are the lookout for a metre-long snake, thought to be a dangerous puff adder. The black snake, with a diamond-like pattern on its head, was first spotted by a man in Oakwood Park north of Grand Bend on Saturday. Police have had at least two calls about the snake, which is believed to be a pet that got away, OPP said.

Others who haven't seen the serpent are glad they haven't.

"I don't think I've ever seen any (snakes) on the Oakwood property," said Mary Wright, guest services manager at Oakwood Inn Resort and Golf Club. "Maybe little grass snakes or something."

The puff adder, common in Africa and parts of the Mideast, is a venomous viper, but is commonly mistaken for North America's less dangerous Eastern hognose snake.

One man who found the snake coiled in his stairwell said it was aggressive and flattened its head when approached, a characteristic of the puff adder.
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Why do I get the feeling that snake owners in Ontario are going to be completely screwed soon if we don't organize
I have the same feeling, Mike
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Old 07-27-04, 10:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is bad news....
and its going to screw over london even more~~
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Any thoughts as to possibly organizing a responsible Ontario herper group to possibly shed some good light and good publicity on the herping community?
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Old 07-27-04, 11:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Maybe we should organize something for the show in September? A gathering of people from different communities who would be willing to start up herp/exotics groups in their areas, as branches of a central organization.

All we need is for people to start saying they're interested in starting something to get the ball rolling.




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Old 07-27-04, 12:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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well whatever you guys think up i'm in
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You guys better hurry. Or else the wildlife officials might surprise you with some stupid law like no snakes over 18" allowed. Best of luck.
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We already have that in my city.
Nothing over 2 feet.

It's not actively enforced yet, just on the books. But they may decide to put it into action to make the city seem proactive in the media at some point.
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anybody consider that maybe its a hognose
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Old 07-27-04, 01:46 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yes, that's why it says it in quotes up above.
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Flattened it's head like a puff adder, or a hoggie



and the puff adder


I would recommend someone writing the paper who published this article and pointing out that the Eastern Hognose is by far the more likely culprit as it is indiginous to the area and demonstrates this behaviour. Herp TV can put too many ideas in the heads of the uneducated masses. The popular media is a herper's worst nightmare as has been demonstrated time and again.

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Flattened it's head like a puff adder, or a hoggie

I would recommend someone writing the paper who published this article and pointing out that the Eastern Hognose is by far the more likely culprit as it is indiginous to the area and demonstrates this behaviour. Herp TV can put too many ideas in the heads of the uneducated masses. The popular media is a herper's worst nightmare as has been demonstrated time and again.

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That's the problem everyone recommends that some one else do it. Iff we all got off our asses and did it ourselves there would be better education for the masses. I'm guilty of this as much as the next person.
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sent them a long letter, and offered to take in the animal if it's a hognose.

otherwise if it actually is a viper, does anyone know of anyone legally caring for hots in ontario that could be contacted?

Little Ray's has a gaboon, but I'm not sure what they have for room. It's pretty packed in there.
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Sorry Lisa, but in my neck of the woods I am quite active with education programs and serve on the TARAS board as treasurer. In fact my letter to the Leader Times in BC regarding the RRR in Surrey was recently printed as well. There are lots of us out here who stand up for our hobby. Now if Mike could post the address of the paper I will gladly write them on your behalf.

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My appologies Lisa. In retrospect I did get a bid defensive there. Your point is quite true indeed. WE ALL need to do our part, not just the other guy.
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