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Old 07-20-04, 07:22 AM   #46 (permalink)
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It's all too true Jeff your name is your brand look at people in the states Bob Clark this and that lol and its like that up here too. I must say I'm proud to own some Jeff Favelle Carpets probably more soon! PS gonna call you later today.
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Stop making fun of balls. Who can't love snakes who save you on food because they are picky, and barely crap? :P:P

I don't agree that anyone can tell anyone what to sell for. In my mind I am going to ALWAYS sell for less than they are worth because in the herp market right now, I feel almost every snake that isn't a morph is UNDER priced and under appreciated. I myself have gotten barely into the whole ball thing, but its because I want more money for kingsnakes....LOL....my first albino or any other morph i make will be sold and the money will be put back into colubrids because kings are my real love and interest in this game. My boyfriend and I would like a part of our stuff to be able to make money for the other less pricey animals we are more interested in....I think that's a good way to be in this hobby, making the hobby self sufficent for you. So I mean I have to think about the money over the herps sometimes, because I need that money for more herps! LOL

You MUST stick with what YOU like. Too many people switch up their collections each year to get with the new thing. I have fiddled with my stuff now to the point where I am happy with what I have.

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Old 07-20-04, 11:41 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I don't agree that anyone can tell anyone what to sell for. In my mind I am going to ALWAYS sell for less than they are worth because in the herp market right now, I feel almost every snake that isn't a morph is UNDER priced and under appreciated
Couldn't agree with this statement any more!!!

Optimus, I got to ship snakes at 4:15pm (my time) and I got V-Ball from 6-9pm (my time). But the cell phone will be on (250-516-7004). Call me for sure!
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Old 07-20-04, 01:07 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Ooooo more snakes???? I AM intrigued brother!!!! Can't go wrong with Roy's stuff. For sure.
Speaking of brand names eh! I'm very found of the Stockwell brand name.
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Speaking of brand names eh! I'm very found of the Stockwell brand name.
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LOL
add me to the list~
I like Stockwell's brand name too
as well as Favelle, MarB, and some other great people out there~

Its just great~!!
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Well, quick jump in here, on the brand names....

I have "Fung's Corn's" a "Favelle's Brazilian" and a "Hamill Hog bci ". as far as snakes go.

Dragons: I have a bunch of "Donald's ".

There's many more brand names out there that I would love to have too

But, I also have and LOVE my no-name brands too. Wouldn't trade em for the world
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Ha ha I hear ya Christina! Too many brand names and not enough Rubbermaids to house them all! LOL!!
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Ha ha I hear ya Christina! Too many brand names and not enough Rubbermaids to house them all! LOL!!
Agreed~!!!!!
Couldn't agree more~

I still want some Favelle Womas, Patterson Black Head, Stockwell Albino Limbergs, Piorun Ringed....darn....so much more and so little space~!!!!
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I don't understand Invictus.

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I personally don't give a damn if person A wants to sell their stuff for less than what I'm selling them for. The way I see it is, I do my best to collect and breed the most superior specimens I can get my hands on. If someone wants to sell common boas for $50, fine. Mine will still be at or slightly above market value if mine are nicer looking, cleaner patterned, higher pink, or whatever. (Not that I breed them right now, but I have the adults ready for next season.)
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What bugs the hell out of me is people jacking UP their prices just because of who they are. This is egotsitcal horses**t in my opinion
Isn't that a bit hypocritical, on more levels than one?? How can you say that a person can charge whatever he/she wants to, but yet get irate over someone who charges more than you think they should? And would it bug you? Do you have to purchase it? Why does it even affect you? I'm not sure if you breed snakes, but what would affect you worse; 1) A guy down the street breeds the same snakes as you, say Sinaloan Milksnakes. He charges $75, when you charge $150. or 2) A guy also breeds Sinaloan Milksnakes down the street from you and he charges $250, but you charge only $150. What's going to affect you worse, purely from a business standpoint? I think #1 is the obvious answer.

I don't have a huge collection, an I don't breed, but I just can't make the connection s to why it would bother you so much that a breeder of snakes charges more than you think they are worth. It doesn't make sense, because it doesn't really affect you on any level.

Or maybe you're esily bugged?

No harm intended, just trying to get a grasp of what you were trying to convey.

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He was trying to convey that just because you are "someone" it should not automatically mean that you can charge more than everyone else for the exact same quality of animal. Right Ken? I thought it rather obvious

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You're dead on Julie.

I pay higher prices for higher quality animals. Not the same quality of animals. And really, it doesn't affect me at all. It's just one of those things that bugs me, that's all. I apologize if anyone read this and got their feathers ruffled, or thought I was accusing them of something.
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Couldn't agree more. Why would anyone willingly fork out extra cash for something just to say, "Hey, I have a **** bred by ****"? It makes no sense. The only reason you should buy any animal is because you are happy with the quality, not because you are looking for bragging rights.

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Whew...That's a long read but a good debate....
The word quality has been used alot in this post but what characteristics are necessary for someone to pay more for a high quality animal? Is it just looks or are there other factors? For instance, the lineage of the animal, previous owners, health, brand .... For us, trusting the people we're dealing with is a major factor... So, how does everyone define high quality? Could be interesting...
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as long as your happy with what you payed for what you gotdoes it really matter. Look all the people that pay petstore prices and are happy with that ...hehe
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No kidding Ryan/Katie. How do you define quality. If two people were selling similar-looking animals, but one person was established, never had a bad transaction, bred the animals themselves, been in the "biz" for a number of years and will always be available for "tech support", as oppsed to a guy who is reselling his animals, suspected to have a mite problem, never bred a thing, doesn't need to worry about is "name" in the biz, therefore has no responsibility for reputation, etc etc?

Think one guy should be able to sell the animals in question for more? I think so. If people can charge as little as they want, people can charge as much as they want. It only affects the seller and the buyer in most cases, so us fretting about it is moot.

Excellent point about lineage too guys. Often ignored by all but the most discriminating of reptile lovers. Its a shame too.
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