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Old 06-14-04, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tiger attacks boy in Elgin

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http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/London...14/498547.html

ok now this guy isnt facing charges yet steve irwin is there is definitely something wrong here
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Old 06-14-04, 12:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ya I don't see why they would not charge someone who knowingly put a child a risk but they are charging someone who never hurt anything. Gotta love the laws.
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That is why not having any exotic animal laws may be worse than having laws.

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Southwold residents recently lobbied the township to ban all exotic animals from the area, Mayor Jim McIntyre said yesterday.
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Old 06-14-04, 01:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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thats why i never take my herps outside in the public......there is this one guy that walks around my area with a huge red tail boa and he walks around outside trying to get peoples attention. i love reptiles and i love teaching people everything i know about reptiles because i dont want people to misunderstand them....but if that snake bites any of those people he is showing then that only does worse for snake and in the end may effect other exotic animal keepers.

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People are amazingly ignorant. How on Earth did any of the people involved think this was ok? You don't put a child in a situation like that, under any circumstances. I can't believe no one is being charged...
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Jeez, I posted it this morning and no one gave me the time of day! *sob*

What I really don't get though, is how people in the community can view this any differently than putting a kid in reach of a large dog, or even a horse.

If they're going to ban all exotics, they should just ban ALL animals.

Of course they'll give you a million reasons why Fluffy and Fido shouldn't be banned.
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I totally agree with you cruciform, they only ban exotics because a they see them as threat, well I consider a pitbull to be a threat and won't even go near them, yet they're not banned
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people can be ignorant when it comes to exotics but i believe those people that set these laws should have an understanding of what they are banning. I used to work at a petstore and we wer not allowed to sell any snake under boids. that ment no kenyans and no balls and yet we could sell tiawan beauties and such. also... we wer not allowed to sell dart frogs even though they loose all toxicity in captivity. maybe if the laws were scientifically accurate and reasonable i would have a better time accepting them. the problem is these people dont want to deal with the research and they just set these dumbass laws.

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Ya its really crazy, i just heard on the news that the toronto humane society are having problems of dogs biting, they are trying to put the dogs asleep cause they bite, i can understand. But poor dogs, if the owner had not mistreated them i doubt that they would be in this situation. But this does not relate to anything here. Steve irwin should not be charged, and im sticking to it.

What about reptile programs??? if they were at a school and teaching kids about reptiles, but then the snake strikes the kids face, would the reptile program be charged? or do they have something that the school signs??? and i guess that the kids have permission forms....But would they still be charged??? Just curious

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What I really don't get though, is how people in the community can view this any differently than putting a kid in reach of a large dog, or even a horse.
Ummm.....

You've got to be kidding, right?!!!!

Are you saying that letting a child near a Siberian TIGER is the same as a large dog or horse?????

I can't even begin to address the huge differences between the two! If you insist on it, I will explain in more detail, but I think that it's pretty darned obvious!

I just can't understand how anyone could compare these together and judge them to be equally dangerous!

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I totally agree with you cruciform, they only ban exotics because a they see them as threat, well I consider a pitbull to be a threat and won't even go near them, yet they're not banned
*** "Pitbulls," which actually encompass several breeds are banned in several cities. While I realize that many people are afraid of these dogs, I'd just like to say a few things.
First and foremost... for every news report of a "vicious" pitbull/rottweiller/whatever, there are thousands more dogs that are NEVER mentioned who are excellent ambassadors of their respective breeds.
Pitbulls, when bred by "professional" breeders who take each animals genetics and temperaments into account, are an excellent family dog when raised properly. In fact, the Pitbull terrier was actually considered "America's favorite dog" and was used in many advertising campaigns, including Buster Brown (Yes, that cute little puppy in the ads is actually a pitbull!), the Victrola dog (rememer "His Master's Voice" dog? Yep... another pitbull), the Little Rascals dog -- Petey, and the list goes on.
For those of you who are interested, here is a website listing some more well known pitbulls: http://pitbulls.iwarp.com/photo6.html
As for their reputation for being "aggressive".... I want to point out that ANIMAL aggression and PEOPLE aggression are COMPLETELY different! The pitbull is naturally animal aggressive, though this can vary from dog to dog (just like with humans, every dog has it's own personality.) Pitbulls were bred to be extremely people friendly, but a badly bred dog (for example a backyard breeder who puts a male and female together without thought as to what he is doing) will likely be more aggressive than one that was bred by a reputable breeder.
Socialization and training are also key factors into a particular dog's temperament. A dog that has been left tied up or kenneled outside with very little human interaction and no training is a time bomb waiting to go off, regardless of the breed. ALL dogs NEED proper socialization and training when it is young to produce a well-mannered well-socialized adult that is a joy to own.
I have two rottweilers and a 3 year old daughter. My dogs have been trained and socialized from day one. I got my youngest rottie from a good local breeder and was showing her until she was hit by a car and was unable to be shown any further. My dogs are excellent around my various animals, including my rodents and my rabbits. They have NEVER bitten anyone and love everyone who comes to visit.
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Old 06-14-04, 08:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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a horse is still capable of doing some serious damage to a kid and dogs can also. if anything dogs can be considered more dangerous because of the closeness they have with people. the fact is... this exotic cat attacks a kid and then they end up punsishing people who keeps snakes and other reptiles or exotic pets...but a person can still walk down the street with a huge great dane. i think these incadents should be kept more isolated. it makes no sense to bann all exotics and leave dogs and cats out of the mix

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I think that the parents are mostly to blame here. What kind of goobers would let their child be face to face with an uncaged tiger? Oh yeah, I forgot the Keeper said it was ok! Stoopid! Too bad it was the kid that suffered the injuries. Now to this whole dog thing. Doesn't it seem 'coincidental' that most injuries that are inflicted by Pitbulls are more life-threatening than a poodle who nicks the cheek of a baby while grabbing for a toy, the lab who's claw happens to cut some old ladies sandaled foot on an initial meeting or the Husky who runs over a kid that happens to be in the way of a toy that was thrown at the park?? Why is it we never hear of the Bulldog who rips a childs arm off, or a Golden Reteiver who mauls an old lady? Because it DOESN'T HAPPEN. Let me guess, the media is "picking on" Pitbulls? Rotties? Dobes? Fact is, good breeding or not, these dogs have the ability and sometimes the poor judgement to do what my examples of 'well-behaved' dogs would not. I'll stick with my goofy, beautiful, funny,loving, cheeky Lab and never have to wory about her eating anyones face.
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Old 06-15-04, 02:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Here's the deal - Aggression is bred into certain breeds of dog - like it or not. You CAN breed for personality traits just as you can for physical ones.
I'm not a "dog guy", but I come from a dog-crazy family, and my better half's folks are registered, REPUTABLE breeders of Old English Sheepdogs, some of the best in the world. I've spent a lot of time at dog shows over the years, so I'm not totally ignorant of canines.

These already naturally aggressive dogs are then often trained by idiotic owners (who know absolutely NOTHING about dogs) to fine-tune their aggressive tendencies, to increase the owners' "machismo". Now, even though the dog may be "great with the kids", it's usually not a family member who gets hurt by it.

Just recently a mail-carrier was mauled by two pit-bulls who went right through a screen door at her, knocking her down causing her to break both fore-arms, and then proceeding to tear at her face. She ended up losing an ear and badly scarred.

I'm sorry, but this sort of thing is totally unacceptable, and it's becoming more and more prevalent as the popularity of these "back-yard breeds", as I like to call them, increases.

If you've ever really taken a look at the statistics on dog bites/attacks, problems with captive herps pale into insignificance, yet most places won't allow even small boids, but any moron can own a dangerous breed of dog.

And just to make a point - yes, ANY breed of dog can attack, depending upon circumstances. Apparently a toy poodle killed a baby while left alone together for a few minutes.

(I'm sure this post'll upset SOMEONE).

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Believe it or not, Horses are actally quite "dangerous" and account for a massive number of injuries each year requiring medical attention.

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