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Old 06-16-04, 01:53 PM   #76 (permalink)
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in response to pikachu.... i dont think it is ignorant to say that it would be better if dogs had to wear muzzles while out in public. if anything it is one of the more open sugestions . both sides win and alot of problems decrease. muzzle meens nobody gets hurt, dog and human. i have owned a dog which i had for many years, raised straight from a pup. and i never put a muzzle on the thing. but if the law was set in place i would understand completely. i dont understand what is so wrong with a muzzle it doesnt hurt the dog.

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I think it would be a good idea to 'pro-rate' dogs, the same way an insurance company 'pro-rates' cars to determine their likelihood for theft, types of drivers who buy this particular car, and so on. If we were to set up some sort of database that records all REPORTED incidents on attack, be they a stitch, a gash, or death of child, adult or other animal, then the public could become more informed as to which breeds are 'less than desireable', and therefore not as in high demand, and in turn bred less, leaving the breeding to professionals to all but kill off the BAD backyard breeders.
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Nice post Cruciform.

One of the biggest problems with dogs today is dog owners. A LOT of bites would be preventing if people were not so lazy. Dogs need EXERCISE. Most people are too lazy to get off their butt and walk their dog (this is also shown in the amount of obese people rising each year) which leads to the dog having built up energy, anxiety and never being exposed enough to social situations.

It's really too bad.

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Old 06-16-04, 02:00 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Exactly Marisa, dogs are not fish or hamsters, they require a certain level of maturity, a lot of responsibility and 8-15 years of your love and attention.
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Mykee...
there WERE a rash of golden retriever attacks,
i've worked in a petsore for almost 10 years, i was around when it happened.
i also OWNED a white golden retriever at the time, thats why it upset me.
ours was from england and not the weird strain that was showing up here.
i live in cabbage town in T.O. i see my fair share of pits, retrievers along with everything else. ive seen aggressive retrievers and pits, and way too many aggressive mini poodles and shitsus!
dont get me wrong i love retrievers and labs, i also love pits and rots
i think we all agree its about reponcible breeding and owning
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Old 06-16-04, 02:18 PM   #81 (permalink)
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i think muzzles for aggresive dogs are a great idea.
i dont believe all dogs should wear them.
like someone else was saying, Haltis are an awseome invention
its like a muzzle but provides more freedom, but you can tighten it around the mouth just in case. it provides good control over the dogs movement too.
muzzles are very restrictive, dogs can barely pant in them (their only way to release excess heat), they cannot drink or eat in them, and most dogs who wear them dont get used to them.( ive fitted dozens of them in the shop)
when safety is involved, i have no problem. sometimes i wish someone would muzzle the mini poodle thats attacks my dog!
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Old 06-16-04, 02:19 PM   #82 (permalink)
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dont you guys think were just a little off topic?

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Not really.

If you can't get people to agree on dealing with the "average" domestic pet, it's going to be very hard to present a good argument why you should have an exotic one.
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oh and mykee, some insurance companies beat you to your idea.
some places in canada (maybe the states too) insurance companies refuse house insurance if you own certain types of dogs
i think theyve started with shepards.
kind of a shame for decent breeders though.
speaking of breeders, my friend went through intense interviews to get his rhodesion ridgeback, wouldnt it be great if itwere like that for every dog!
by the way, i think you all have very valid opinions, this has turned into to quite the interesting thread! heeheehee
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ive never herd of a haltis before. of course i do believe that would be a better choice. gives the dog the freedom and gives the security also.

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id actually like to hear some actual hobbiests opinions on what reptile laws they agree with. what laws would you make on owning herps.

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Muzzles dont help dogs at all. If u muzzle an agressive dog, he has no outlet and when u take the muzzle off, he is only going to be more agressive to show other dogs that he's a "bad ***".
Halti's are made for stronger dogs, if a dog pulls when it has a halti on, it steers the dog's head to the side and cuts the dogs power down and makes it easier for the handler to walk the dog.

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thnx for the description pidgeon..im starting to get an idea of what it is now.

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Old 06-16-04, 02:59 PM   #89 (permalink)
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the reptile laws in T.O are weird but kind of good in some ways.
but NO ONE abides by them. it does restrict what petsores can sell which is good i think.
Ex.(not sure but this is close)
no snakes over 3 meters
no monitors over 1 meter
no venomous reptiles, insects, or arachnids
but you can still aquire all of them.
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Old 06-16-04, 03:05 PM   #90 (permalink)
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news on the tiger...
i talked to a friend of mine that used to party in london a lot.
he said they had the tiger in a club one night( completely sedated)
his friend had pictures taken with it, they just had it on a little leash!
he said it must be the the same one because it was privately owned,
unless lots of people own tigers in london!
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