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Old 06-02-04, 04:45 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Hi folks,

In my opinion, if you can sell a snake in Canada, give yourself a pat on the back! It's always been a tough market. And the more breeders there are, the tougher it's gonna be.

I've always been amazed at how many people are willing to compromise on shipping costs after purchasing fairly expensive animals. It's a strange mentality.
When I have animals shipped to me, I always use the most reliable and fastest carrier and service that I can. I don't cut corners. As a customer, I figure proper shipping into the price of the animals, and I don't whine about it.

Just my two cent's...

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Old 06-02-04, 10:06 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Great input Simon my man! Thanx!
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Old 06-02-04, 11:43 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Exactly man. When was the last time you saw a rescue Pied or a rescue Blackhead? LOL!
Jeff, I'm a chick. HAHA.

Nice stuff guys. This is a huge post!!
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Ha ha, oops, my bad!

How yooo doin;....?
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Old 06-02-04, 11:32 PM   #140 (permalink)
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LOL!

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LOL

Favelle, some days I just wanna slap ya, other days you give me good info that I need and days like today, you just make me laugh man.
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Old 06-03-04, 04:23 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Thanks, Jeff!
I just want to clarify my last sentence because I don't think I worded it quite properly...
For example, if I wanted to purchase a pair of your beautiful Jungle Carpets, Jeff, I'd know that they'd likely cost around $600.00, and the shipping, via Air Canada Cargo (The carrier that I like to use), will run between $100.00 - $150.00. So that pair of snakes is going cost me around $750.00, bottom line.

The shipping costs are the buyers' responsibility.

Sorry if I've drifted off-topic...

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HEHE!!! Ya, Jeff I'm doin just fine. LOL LOL. Now back to the subject ok.
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LOL, indeed!
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Old 06-04-04, 02:58 AM   #145 (permalink)
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Just because I have a bunch of snakes that reproduce and sell for coin, doesn't mean that I can't be a hobbyist. The two are NOT mutually exclusive.
Haven't ya ever heard that saying "Never mix business with pleasure" ?


IMO, there is a big difference between someone that keeps reptiles as a hobby and someone that keeps large collections for breeding and selling purposes. Not that either one is bad, but you have to admit, once you start selling anything in large scale, the $$$ part of it gets in the way of the true feelings of the hobby. You start looking at your collection with money in mind. Like you said Jeff, you would never sell one of your female BP's for less than $1000.

My only point is that you put price tags on animals, rather than being satisfied that it is going to a good home. They start thinking about how much cash that animal can put in their pocket, rather than the happiness it will bring the person that gets to keep it. Seriously, what kind of BP is it, a rare morph or something? I mean, I have a BP and in no way, shape or form is it worth $1000. I guess if I bred it and sold the babies, then yeah, it has a dollar value, but that's my point. I dont think like a breeder. I am considering just giving it to one of my other friends that wants it. A good friend of mine gave me a beautiful BCI, that I have had for 3 yrs now. If he were a breeder that made lots of cash off of reptiles, I doubt highly he would have just givin it to me. I just think that the $$$ changes your frame of mind.

Don't take this the wrong way, everyone has a right to make lots of money from something they enjoy doing. BUT..if it were for the true love of the hobby, you would not see the outlandish prices for some of the reptiles out there. For instance..on another site there are Type II Albino Retics for $7,500-$15,000. That is completely nuts IMO. Those kinds of prices make it almost impossible for the average person to enjoy keeping as a pet. Just my thoughts...again..im not putting anyone down...playing devil's advocate if you will.
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I don't really agree. This is totally off but in some Asian regions where dogs are eaten, there are still people who keep dogs as pets. I'm sure they don't wonder how tasty poochy would be everytime they pat his back.

I also think you can be a breeder/dealer of one species while keeping another species as a pet.
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And keeping snakes as "pets" doesn't mean you are a HOBBYIST. The hobby of reptile-keeping encompasses a LOT more than simply keeping them in a cage on your dresser as a pet. Some people take it to different levels than other people do, but that does not make them less of a hobbyist. No way.
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Old 06-04-04, 10:22 AM   #148 (permalink)
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I agrewith Jeff , most customers won't want to pay more but in every other industry they have it look at all those TV adds it's 19.99 PLUS shipping and Handeling. But then again you breeders can always have deal like buy a certain dollar amount or so many animals and have it included. Some breeders in the states add the cost on.
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I agrewith Jeff , most customers won't want to pay more but in every other industry they have it look at all those TV adds it's 19.99 PLUS shipping and Handeling. But then again you breeders can always have deal like buy a certain dollar amount or so many animals and have it included. Some breeders in the states add the cost on.
Buy from the states and expect to pay a FWS fee (55usd i believe).
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Yep. F&W will have a fee, and if its a boid, then CITIES will have some more fees for ya as well, LOL!
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