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Old 02-04-04, 06:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Great advice Tony, very proffessional. Follow this advice and you should have no more worries.
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I was under the impression that there was no cure for IBD, much like AIDS.

IBD in Canada? This is REALLY scary.
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You're correct there is no cure.
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Old 02-04-04, 07:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Maybe it is just me, but I am piss scared right now. I think we all have the right to know where you are located and who the breeder is, so we can take the proper precautions. This is no joke.

Being in Southern Ontario, this is a very big issue. I am not sure on the details on how IBD may be transferred, but I hope you are taking the proper precautions as well.
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I'm with you thegino. Pretty darn worried here. I don't have to deal with boids, but regardless the whole idea is scary!
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Old 02-04-04, 07:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Not to mention, I think the breeder also has to obligation to come fourth and inform us and the customers themselves on who he has sold too, where he has been, etc. This is a pretty serious matter. Also I am not sure on how it is transferred, so if someone can clear up on that it would be much appreciated. \

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or through airborne aerosolized secretions, or by the keeper passing secretions from one snake or enclosure to another during the course of handling or cleaning (when strict quarantine and cleaning procedures are not followed).
That is a quote from the website provided, however I haven't an idea what aerosolized secretions is I now understand it is transferred like AIDS, so that allows me to relax a little. Phew.

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Old 02-04-04, 07:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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uh, do we have proff yet or just a persons post? When I see a copy of the vet report then I'll be urging for the name to be posted on the BOI. You can get it on this site through PM but as soon as it's posted in an open forum it will be removed. There's no need to put any of that stuff here now that we have a Canadian BOI.
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Old 02-05-04, 01:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Ok we did ask for everyoneís opinion but for those of you that donít believe us that it is IBD then the vet we went to is located in Burford, you can go talk to him we have are proof were watching are snakes drop of one after another isnít that proof enough? Also if all of you guys think itís from a boa then we have a problem. We have one boa in our collection! So if you believe that it is from the boa then thatís from one breeder witch is still well known! If you believe itís from the balls then itís from another breeder! but it is from one of these two breeders!

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Can you post the name of the vet? Thanks
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can someone post a link to the CBOI? I don't know it... also, Snakeslovers, if you have the proof, then yes definately post it on the CBOI... but as you said Boas are the carriers... amybe you should have a biopsy done on your BOA to see if he is the one that actaully has it. and then maybe that explains why the balls are dying....
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Old 02-05-04, 01:47 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm no expert on IBDV but you can be sure I'll be doing some research on it shortly! But SnakeLovers, it doesn't come down to what we believe, but what is scientific fact, and and what is provable.

I'm willing to take your word that snakes are dying, but before putting out information that could massively harm someone's reputation I would want to see something more concrete. A posted copy of the vet's report would be a good start.

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i dont understand why they have to proove anything to anybody
all they were doing was telling everyone that it is present in canada now and that the vet said that it came from the breeder
whether that is the case or not that isnt the issue, they havent named names yet.

now why would everyone be worried if your snakes act normal then dont worry, if they start to show symptons then start to worry.

and as far as i know there is no test that can detect IBD in a living snake anyway, you can only do a test on a dead snake this is just my understanding, if there is a test that can be done on a living animal then post and all that are worried then go get it done , but as far as i know there isnt 1.

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I wasn't suggesting that they need to prove anything, except if they decide to make statements that would name the individual(s) involved, as was requested by many other people. Personally, I hope they would display proof, and name the breeder on the CBOI as this is a very serious disease and well worth quite a bit of our attention to ensure it doesn't spread.

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