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Old 01-29-04, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I like to ask myself silly questions sometimes and sharing these weird thoughts sometime brings interesting conversations.

Here's my latest

Ever calculated how pricy rat meat is ???

It's approx 1.7 penny a gram.
so .017$ x 1000 = 17$ / kg
= 7.73$ per pound

And we're talking rat meat here..
At the grocery store you can get A-1 quality chicken for 1 to 2$ a pound and less when it's on special.

In the wild I don't think all snakes only eat rodents. Some probably also go for some wild turkeys, birds, etc...

If I can get some of my snakes to eat chicken part, could it be bad for them ??? I would think that the chicken I buy for me is better quality than rodents we buy for our herps.

Ok, it doesn't "look" natural, but neither does a dead mouse in my opinion...

Ok people I'm waiting to hear what you have to say on this.

By the way, my freezer is full of dodent, I'm not realy thinking of feeding chicken parts to my herps, but I really need to put this question to sleep ... who knows !!!!

thanks.

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Are you talking about the weight of rat meat specifically, or the entire rat (bone, organs etc)?
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Interesting that you brought that up. When M&M Meats has boneless chicken breasts on sale you can get a dozen for pretty cheap.

Cheaper than buying rats for sure. Anyone have opinions on nutrition?


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Davers: the whole thing... not rat "filets"

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good point there daver676 I think there is actual nutriance found in the Rats organs and bones and brain abd thing like that lets not forget frozen meat at the super market is full of preservatives and stuff. Now mind you I was working at a zoo and I was preparing choped stake for some monitors and baby crocodilians.

(it was meat week for them. We did one week meat one week rodents one week insects and one week off.)

any way I fed all of the crocodilians and varaninds and I hade somthing like 2 small bowls left and the rest were full and I hate wasting food. well I hade 2 eastern indigos with a killer feeding responce I put the bowls in the next morning there was nothing to be found I only did that 2 other times then I realised there were preservatives in the meat but they did eat it.

Also My friend works in a meat shop and told me not to feed it to animals because of the dye the put in the meat to make it look fresh if you don't know what I mean go buy a 4Lbs of hamberg meat and split it in half you will see the red then all of a suden brown and you ask your self is it still good meat yes it is they just put the dye there to get you to buy it right away.
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Snakes need the bones for calcium dont they? So i would think that a rat with bone would be better for a snake compared to chicken breast with no bone just my 2 cents thats all.
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Old 01-29-04, 02:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Then I'll put it in easier terms so that there in no space for suppositions..

Lets compare a full rat with a chicken leg.. wich contains meat, bone, tissues, etc... and no dyes.. lets not talk about chicken filets or hamburger meat.. it's not what I had in mind...

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Well for one, chicken legs don't have fur. They also only contain, what, one bone?

Anything meant for humans is also pumped full of anti biotics, preservatives, and steriods. Mice and rats raised in home or by a feeder breeder are not.

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Raw Chicken is full of Samonella + tons of steriods & preservatives & I won't recommend it myself. Not a natural diet by no means. Snakes are meant to eat rodents, not fillets from M&M. If ya can't afford a proper diet ya can't afford them. Some people will feed chicks, but they too are nasty dirty creatures & make your snakes just reek when they pass them. Rodents are the food of choice always. Mammals are nice clean animals, especially when compared to chickens. IMHO Mark
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I've thought about this myself. My mother thinks that the first person who can come up with a pre-made snake food that is just as good for he snake as a rat, but comes in a sausage form (just buy the same diameter sausage that would fit your snake), would be a very rich individual.

The problem would be getting the snake to actually eat it.
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Snake sausages already exsist. They are ground up rodents minus fur and intestinal track I believe.

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Good points

Now I don't want to eat farmed meat any more either.

Anyone like to come over for a nice meal of fresh rat?
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Imagine being paid to skin and clean mice all day?
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Daver676 its already been done. You can already buy "snakes sausages" I don't know the brand name, but they got em. They come in a can & are sausages stuffed with ground up Rodents of some type. Mark I.
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You can get fresh chickens from a farm without anti biotics, preservatives, or steriods. And if you got it fresh you could probably get some feathers on it. I have no idea about the nutritional value though.
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