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Old 01-14-04, 08:10 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Yes true point Siretsap....not everyone finds certain blah normals, blah. I totally understand that. Good post.

I guess things will proceed however they proceed and only the people who either love the reptiles truely, or have already established themselves as qaulity breeders will get the best end of the stick.

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Well it's not that hard to get a good name these days, all you have to do is please the customers and they will be proud to mention your name when they speak from where they bought their reptiles.
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I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents here.

This year so far, Erin and I are going to be attempting to breed common corns, kenyan sand boas, sinaloan milks, and black-bellied kings het for albino. Whoopie! Not a single snake over $40! Big freakin' deal, right? Wrong.

The corns I'm breeding are a HIGH red male to a possible miami or miami x normal female. 2 incredible specimens. The kings I'm breeding are not only het albino, they may create BLIZZARD babies if I F2 them because the mother is a melanistic king. (Melanistic + Amelanistic = very reduced pattern albino, or blizzard.) Even the sinaloans are exceptionally nice proven specimens that are larger than any others I've seen (Daddy is 4.5 feet, mommy is 4 feet), and have an incredible red coloration to them that hasn't faded into orange. Admittedly, the kenyans are kinda blah.

So why am I breeding them? Well, for now, that's all I have that is breedable, lol

Well that, and I truly feel that the specimens I'm breeding together are definitely top notch. And here's the other major factor - if they sell, great. Pocket change that I can put towards something a bit more expensive. If they don't sell, however, Erin and I are more than willing to house the creatures for the rest of their lives and raise them as pets. This even goes for the 3.3 group of common boas we have. (Soon to be 4.4). We will only be breeding the superior specimens to create the best looking babies imaginable. If they sell, great. If they don't, I'm going to be building a LOT of cages.

But seriously, they can be slung in trades, blown out the door wholesale, shipped to the states (I have every intention of learning the ins & outs of exporting), or whatever. I'm doing this because I can't wait to see what the babies look like!!! I can't wait to pick holdbacks.
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Old 01-14-04, 10:40 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Prices come down eventually otherwise they are artificialy inflated, look at dvd players. when they first came out you were looking at prices of 400 or more dollars, now you can get one for about 75$ with more features then the ones that came out years ago. Now if you spend 300 or more dollars on a dvd player it does alot more then the basic players that cost more then that years ago.... you get more for your money these days. when some one has something rare the prices goes up, when everyone and their brother has it by the gallon the price goes down to try to generate sales. But even out side of this an item is only worth what some one is willing to pay for it. for instance i'm not willing to pay much for a ball python bought from a pet chain, yet i've been willing to pay $200 for one from reptilia or a breeder like hiss and herps.

Supply has gone up, the demand for low priced snakes hasn't matched this growth in supply. As everyone has stated over and over, everyone and their brother is breeding. And as much as you think an animal should be worth there's no way it's worth that if no one is willing to pay it. You may have to work a little harder and visit some petstores, put ads on pay sites, and so on. think out side the box.
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