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Old 01-06-04, 06:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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With kings i'd supervise all times together.
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What do you meen Lisa? You meen i should keep the male and female together all the time (how long)? Or you meen i need to keep eggs with the female? Thanks.
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ihink she mans tha you should watchthem the whole time they aretogether so they dont eat eachother.
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2 weeks is not enough time for the brumation. The 6.5 weeks is probably the minimum to have them brumating at 50-55 degrees. This does not include the time to keep them off feed, and the time to warm them up.
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WAA 6.5 week ??? wouldn't they starve to death in 6.5 weeks? Then is there a way so that i can change to a sertain temperature so that they will not have to stay in there for too long? Basycally i thought that the snakes can't leve for more then a month after they have lost all of food in them.
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I don't know where you've been getting your information, but snakes can go months on end with no food, and most do during the breeding season. Even when you bring them out of brumation, they may go another couple of months without any food at all. As long as your snakes are healthy sized when you put them down, they will be fine. My kings and milks are brumating right now, and they will be down for 2.5 months with no food.
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Wow kool thanks ! So i should hybernate my Banded California King snakes for exaclty 6.5 weeks, and if its less then that they will not be in breeding mode? Also earlyer when i said to poot them together for 1 week to mate, Lisa said that i have to watch them all of the time... so when i go to sleep i have to separate them till ones again i can watch them? Thanks
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No, you should brumate them for at LEAST 6 weeks. I'd recommend 8 though. Not that I'm overly experienced, that's just what I've gathered from the breeders that I've talked to.
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I don't think you are fit to breed anything if you can't learn, this is not rocket science here. Pick up a book and read, read the care sheets and forums. Lots of breeders have care on their web pages. I don't won't sound harsh, but we all can't do the thinking for you. If you don't have the brains to learn then it is not fair to the animals in question. You are not putting any thought into your questions and it sucks to see that, because I feel for the animals if you can't figure this out, I mean do you know anything.
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Joshm.

Alex is trying to learn, and has come to the best place to do it.

As far as I know, there is a language barrier - and some people have been very good about trying to work around that.

A book is a very good place to start but your post wasn't very constructive.

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If there is a language barrier then I will appoligize, but for people not reading and learning before haveing these animals is wrong. It is a privelege to own them and to take care of them and too many people abuse it. He should have done his homework before aquiring these snakes. The questions he asks are basic and people should know these things before running out and buying snakes, even if they are common or only worth $75 dollars. They are not disposible pets and people need to learn without people holding their hands. Like I said there is tonnes of info out there and people are getting to lazy to do it themslves. By reading his posts I don't think he has alot of knowledge and I don't won't to see the snakes suffer because of it. All I'm saying is if you want to own these things, then do your homework first, without asking everyone to do it for you. This is so the animals have a good and prospurose life. Well I think I'm done ranting now.
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There is a language barrier, a quite severe one.

The way I understand it, he is double checking with us, the information he has read (in english) to make sure he has things correct, because he doesn't want to do it wrong - which is good.

When I started, I used to double check and triple check the information I had read or was given - not because of a language barrier.

Thanks for the clarification Josh

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Joshm, i really apresheate youre consern for anymals But, you should really read carefully before making any coments! You have comented that i am getting the snakes with out knowing anything about them, which is apsolutley wrong and have no idea what made you think that.

Firtable i know everything of my anymal's habitats, and their temperatures as to how to keep them. Secondable i just got a pair for my male King and want to know how to Breed Them NOT to know how to take care of them which i already know, i know all of the info to keep them and was just doble checking on how to breed them cause the internet sources can be some times out dated.

Basycally what i wana say is i am a very sensytive person when it comes to my anymals and my selph, when it came to the point where a person starts saing shet with out knowing me as a person or my knowledge. I have dedicated my whole life and will do everything i can for all living creatures untill i can mouve no more. I have saved lives of other anymals including fighting to save something as small as a bee, the last thing i would do is to get an anymal which i know nothing about!
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so when i go to sleep i have to separate them till ones again i can watch them?
That's correct. Provided that that both parties are interested and have undergone a proper brumation, copulation should occur almost immediately, especially with the colubrids in question. These snakes are very easy to breed. Simply introduce the animals, do not leave unsupervised (kings are well-known ophidiophages), and separate them when you see copulation. Repeat this process until you are certain that a successful copulation has taken place. If the male is not interested in the first 10-15 minutes then leaving him with the female longer will not likely induce a copulation, just separate them and try later.
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