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Old 01-04-04, 08:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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He lost me in that eppisode I think it was the Red Bellied Black Snake talking about how he love his animals and doesn't want to stress it and then goes to hold it by the tail and makes it strike at him over 30 times. And I don't agree that its OK to endanger your child as long as its not public.
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Old 01-04-04, 02:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I agree with Tim and Julie. How meny people raise pit bulls, rotties?? To lots of people they are just as bad as crocs. Now how meny raise their kids as well as rotties and such?? It's dangerous just bring a child into this world. At least he is raising his children his way with love for the animals. I also don't think he should have done it in public.
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Old 01-04-04, 03:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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my child has spent his whole life around pit bulls and that doesnt make it dangerous, ALL dogs can bite and do damage, its just some are more publicized then others so you hear about them more, and you will not hear about the other dog bits cuz they are not pit bulls....nobody wants to read/hear about that
the media will always have a biased opinion
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Old 01-04-04, 05:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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how can you compare a pitbull/rottie to a croc? haha! thats rediculous!

On the other hand, I agree with Marisa here. The only mistake made was doing it publicly. Steves doing what hes been taught, and what hes been exposed to from a young age. Doing it on camera was idiotic, though.
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Hmm I think my post got deleted, weird...*sigh* Anyhow I will repost it.

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The only mistake he made was doing it in public. His parents raised him at the park, he caught his first venomous snake at FOUR years old, he was raised feeding crocs and wants to raise his two kids the same way. To us its wrong but to them its normal. The only mistake was doing it in front of the public.

I only HOPE any kids I get stuck with will have those opportunities.
Exactly my opinion. I am sure his dad did the exact same thing with him; it is a way of life for them. Like you said it was doing it publicly that was his mistake.

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i agree with him saying it is more dangerous packing your kid up and going outside
That is very similar to what I was going to post when the thread started but I thought it would upset people. My opinion is: him doing that is exactly like taking your kid into a vehicle. Or similar to it anyways. Yet it is something we do without giving it a second thought.

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How old was Steve when his father started taking him out on croc hunts? He too was a baby. No one pegged his father as being irresponsible. The only reason anyone cares is because he's a tv personanlity. And we all know how much people like to stir $hit up.
Exactly.

As already mentioned, you cannot compare this to what MJ did. As someone else mentioned, but that seems to be gone too, I highly doubt MJ was holding the baby over the railing so that he wont grow up with a fear of heights. Steve had his reasons. Again, it was stupid to do it on camera.

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the croc obviously notices weeknesses and that one hand is busy holding the kid..i love steeve but damn that was freakin dummbbbb..i dont even understand the point..its not like the baby is gonna remember!
Exactly, you do not understand. Steve does, and so did his father when he did the same with him. They understand why they do it, which is why you can't critisize him for doing so. And I am sure if the crocodile viewed the baby as a weakness, Steve would know about it.
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Old 01-04-04, 07:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It was stupid plain and simple because of the many problems it COULD have caused, Just say for one minute that something did go wrong you all wouldnt have said these things you have said in your posts, do any of you know that a month old baby should not even be held that way???????????????????? it could damage his neck geez. I have heard some idiotic posts before but this one takes the cake. I dont care what tradition it was it was wrong for him to do that to a new born Infant that baby will not remember it anyhow.

What would it have done for herps everywhere if the baby got hurt answer that when you go to post it was ok for him to do it. people are people no matter who and how experienced you are you are human and can slip up.
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Old 01-04-04, 07:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The only problem i see is that he went public. Now he has to hear it from the countless morons that pass judgement on others when they are just as much at fault for putting their kids and others into danger. If you do not think that packing your kids in the minivan for a ball game or movie is dangerous, then your a moron. If you fail to realize that Steve has many people that are watching out for him while he is in the exibits then your a moron.

I do not see how all you folks could pass judgement on another so strongly when YOU are just as guilty for doing things that could carry the same consequences, even if these things are publicly acceptable. You think that the common things that you do daily are any safer than what Steve did? If so you need a reality check. Just because what Steve did is beyond our reality, does not mean that the public itself is at fault for endangering their childrens lives on a daily basis. I would rather be Steves' kid than be the kid in the back of countless minivans worldwide. The world has been conditioned to believe everything they do is normal and great, but others actions are horrible.

How many of you fathers out there have venomous or other potentially dangerous reptiles at home? Who has not taken there kids out to shoot the 'family' guns? Who has not ran a red light with a carload of kids only to think "That was close!"

On a side note...I was raised by a mountain man, literally. I was going on my fathers trap lines at the age of 3, and even on hunting trips as an infant. I was setting traps and snares at 4-5 years of age. And believe me when I say a full grown Mountain Lion is nothing you want to see pissed off at the end of chain. This is something our ancectors have been doing for ages, to condition and teach their young about the world they are entering. Some of you folks need to lighten up and see beyond your own ways, and realize you are at fault for dangerous actions as well.

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What people need to do is Stop judging everybody.It is his kid,if he wants to do what he did,it is his perogative. At least he is not drinking or doing Crack in front of his kid.There are alot more dangerous things in the world to harm kids,stop ragging on the poor guy.
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Sunrunner- It caused no problems other than inciting arguments between people who could not possibly know all of the details. Just exactly what post was idiotic? Everyone's but yours? You seem to say a lot of negative things about what everyone else thinks. I don't think that I can recall a positve post from you yet. Not that it's a bad thing, but you are no more an expert than anyone else here. I don't think you should peg people's thoughts as idiotic, stupid or pointless, which I have read many times in your posts. Yes, we should voice our opinions, but even an argument can be positive in nature. You can even call someone stupid in a nice way if you try. Of course it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Anyways, he did what he did and I can only assume it won't happen again because too many people are narrow-minded and have caused to much negative publicity. And yes, I still think he had every right to be the father he is and to do what was taught to him. Who cares what Joe Blow thinks, it's not his kid.

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It was stupid plain and simple because of the many problems it COULD have caused
Ok well if that is the argument, don't take your baby in the car, because you COULD get into an accident. Don't carry the baby because you COULD drop him. Heck, don't feed the baby either because he COULD choke.

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What would it have done for herps everywhere if the baby got hurt answer that when you go to post it was ok for him to do it.
Don't give me that. Had the baby got hurt, I really don't think it would affect the herp community at all. What are they going to do, go kill every animal in the world that could harm someone?

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anyone who doesnt like steve anymore ebcause of this, or thinks hes a bad parent, or thinks he put his child in danger is a moron. i'm not going to try and explain any more
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I agree..with maiden
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Old 01-05-04, 12:33 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I was not comparing crocs to dogs persay by the danger they pose. Everything has the potential (sp?) to harm someone. It's just a matter of how you look at it.
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