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Old 09-28-03, 04:41 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Wow you people have actually wasted that much time on the forum fighting over this? LOL Wow.

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Old 09-28-03, 07:30 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Ronnie is the king...he's taking the Olympia again this year!!!! Big Daddy Coleman is the most insane freak alive not to mention a kick *** police officer...wanna see some oiled up "muscle freaks" check out the pics at anabolix.com...damn....monsters!!
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he's a cop?! dang man if everyone knew about him the crime rate would like drop to 0%. i'm assuming he's legit (no drugs) since he's olympia right?
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Old 09-28-03, 10:19 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Sunrunner, it's about damn time Ronnie take the title, he's been around a long time, and outlived the likes of Levrone, Matarazzo, Benaziza, Titus, Wheeler, Yates. It's about time he get his just rewards always placing second to Ray...
Coleman clearly is the most symmetrical competitor for years.
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Old 09-30-03, 05:36 PM   #95 (permalink)
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No Nio,

He's full of the stuff. All PROS JUICE IT!!! No if and's or but's about it. Period. If you in the O your on it. Yes he is a cop (hasn't worked as one in MANY years) and is breaking the law. Technically (a blind eye is turned in the force. it's almost acceptable behavour until this date).

Ronnie's been around since the late 80's. Promoted as a "natural" bodybuilder (just takes less then everyone else) for a while until he disappered for a couple of years. Now he's like the rest. Don't forget. If you know your stuff about the juice you can EASILY pass a test while on it. Take test. The test for testostrone is only an epitisone to testostrone ratio. Your allowed 8:1 I believe (i could be wrong, haven't kept up with it in 8yrs now). Gee, I wonder if I take epitisone what will happen? Well, I'll get to take MORE JUICE!! Just don't take the ones that have excessivly long half life's (Thanks Ben Johnson YOU IDIOT)

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Old 10-01-03, 11:24 AM   #96 (permalink)
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Old 10-01-03, 04:46 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Dear Mousekilla,

Has anyone ever made metion to picture associated with your nickname? I personally find it disturbing seeing an innocent child being taught poor ethics. Being desensitied at such a young age and by doing it in the worst possible way, masking it with humourous feelings, will certainly lead to problems in the future with a variety of aspects in life. Don't want to harp on the topic since for some reason I just don't think you would be to willing to remove it. I wish the little girl all the luck in the world.

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Old 10-02-03, 02:53 PM   #98 (permalink)
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As a matter of fact the last (and only) time someone said that my avatar was offensive to them I offered to replace it with an alternate one of my BCI devouring a mouse, if he felt that was more appropriate for his children to see online. That person did not respond to the offer. Maybe he saw how faulty that logic would be. Maybe you will find that to be a more desirable or acceptable image. As far as your specific commentary, such as alleging that this teaches "poor ethics" or "desensitizes" a child to something (to what you fail to explain) I'm afraid that I simply don't see it. I do not believe in sheltering children from things that will not upset or warp them. I do not believe that words or gestures that are arbitrarily deemed naughty in our society are harmful to children. That girl is in the first grade now and simply learned the vocabulary that she would be picking up on the playground anyway a little earlier than perhaps some of the other kids. So what? Yes she knows how to flip someone off, she knows the F word but she is also academically advanced in reading and (go figure) verbal skills (in 2 languages). Everyone that meets her is impressed with her behaviour, good nature, advanced sense of humour and communication skills. This little girl is not permitted to be disrespectful to anyone and cannot stand to see any person or creature suffer. Do not assume that because this child has been raised with a different morality than perhaps you would apply to your own children that this child has been raised with "poor ethics". Please enlighten me as to how naughty words, in your opinion, can "lead to problems in the future...etc." I would really like to hear that question answered directly without having to make assumptions about how this particular child has been raised because, quite frankly, you just don't know this kid. But please, explain, in general terms, how swear words and hand gestures harm children.
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I think MouseKillas avatar is cute and, I also agree with him. Children this day and age will learn how to swear or flip the bird at a young age on the playground or just from hearing other people swear. I was 7 years old when I flipped my mother the bird asking her what it was. She just chuckled a bit thinking it was cute, and after explaining its meaning, I used it very sparingly. How on earth could a few simple swears and flipping the bird hinder a child's intellectual growth and well-being?. There are far worse things to be concerned about regarding their welfare these days, such as child abuse, kidnapping, and drug abuse. No sense worrying about their use of a damn finger or swear word.
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ummm, i disagree with mousekilla here... let me explain my opinion (which is not meant to start anything, just an opinion!)

Sure, children will learn swear words or actions as the case may be on television, on the playground, or from wherever else. And it's true that it doesn't necessarily make them immoral for simply knowing them. My issue is more to do with the fact that flipping the bird as you call it, at such an early age, in a circumstance where it is seemingly acceptable WILL have negative effects. By allowing this, and using it as an avatar, you are teaching the child that it is an acceptable part of society. It is NOT an acceptable part of society. It is also very rude.

I understand your point about the child being advanced in 2 different languages. That's wonderful! But, that means absolutely nothing in relation to your argument. She must also realize that swearing is not a proper form of expression. It lacks thought, is very vague, and does absolutely NOTHING to solve any problem. If anything, it encourages backlash.

I presonally don't care what avatar anyone uses, but since the topic came up I thought I'd share my thoughts. Oh, by the way, I am a grade 1 and 2 teacher.

Just my thoughts. Again, I really don't care about your avatar mousekilla, just giving my opinion.

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Old 10-02-03, 08:54 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Lord Kovacs,

Again, I hear the message that this will have some negative effect but I still have yet to hear what that may be specifically. I also take issue with the idea that there are "proper" words to use when expressing oneself and also that swearing necessarily means there is an absense of thought. This is intellectual snobbery. Please children, use thou only the Queen's English. Sometimes flipping the bird is the most accurate and concise way to express how you feel, not the least bit vague. I am by no means saying that it is always appropriate (she has been instructed by her parents that certain words are not for the classroom). I do believe in expanding vocabulary, whatever that might mean, we cannot afford to arbitrarily cut words out of our language. How many of the most important books in the history of mankind would be lost if we were to apply the random moral sensitivities of the given day to them? NO Bible, NO Tom Sawyer... the list could go on for pages and pages and with each shift in popular values the list of conforming "proper" books would need to be revised. I could rant for hours on this but I'll spare you all....for now. LOL!
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Mousekilla, if the way that you articulate and express yourself is an indication of how this little girl also does (assuming she is your daughter, sister, etc.) then she is in good hands, and I believe has a great start on life. What's ironic is that those of you who are touting that this is unacceptable, or ethically wrong or immoral, leading to a degenerate lifestyle, need only look at their spelling mistakes in their posts. They lack the intelligence to realize that kids need to be 'well rounded' whatever that means. I learned the 'f' word at a young age, and quite honestly, my dialog is riddled with vulgarity, at the right time and place. Vulgarity does not make someone less intelligent. To the contrary, those who do not use vulgarity are often terribly closeminded Vulgarity does not make someone stupid. Stupid comments make someone stupid. BTW, I find your avatar oddly amusing.
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No Mykee, no complaints at the burger shop. No MS Word ethier. If you read the back posts you would know that. Shouldn't have to appologize on every post of the same thread. I'm glad to see so many (by no means all) people are thinking this is "cute" and how children learn these things whether we want them too or not. Just like at work, its always someone else's fault/problem. Let's not take ownership and be proactive about stopping soceity's degrigation of morales and values. Just throw your hands up in the air and say "oh well, they'll learn it anyway", "well all the teens are drinking, what can I do about it", "all the other kids' parents let them do it". Then walk away. That'll help. When this topic is presented to an average cross section of the population (I don't know if this surprizes you but it most definately surprized me) what Mousekilla's avatar represents is offensive.

Mousekilla. Yes I would greatly appricate your changing your avatar. Could you please? I cannot express efficently what I would need to say to qualify my statement in full. My background is not as MD. I amagine you know some people that are. Ask them. I'm sure they would have no problem enlightening you. (or take an unbaised third person, omnicent view of this topic. Either way you should get your answer)

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And Mykee,

No need for passive agressiveness. Just come out and say whatever you wish to say. Be blunt. Spelling is not indicative of the level of one's intelligence. Level of education is not indicative of one's intellgence either (however it is an indicator, and yes, I am HIGHLY educated by our good 'ol Canadian system. What is your degree in?)

I'm starting to see (unfortuealty) some peculiar attributes in this "industry".

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Old 10-03-03, 04:18 AM   #105 (permalink)
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