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Old 09-13-03, 03:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i don't know if thats the cause....i'd ask your friend about it though...
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Old 09-13-03, 05:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yes it could be the cause of it! Birds can easily get depressed and die from seperation anxiety! Don't be surprised if he starts pulling feathers out from other parts of his body. Actually I read in a cockatiel manual (don't remember the name) that cockatiels can live about 40+ years and McCaws can live 100+ years.......
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I know he doesn't pay a load of attention to the bird, but its a fairly straight line. Do they do that?
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Saphire moon - Ive been working with birds for a few years now...ive never seen a tiel make it to 40, but if you have thats pretty cool im not saying its not possible...
Macaws yes, 100 years plus for sure


If the line is farily stright and right down the middle of the chest chances are the bird is a little under weight and thats his chest bone comming through, that would cause a little bit of a bald spot in a straights line.
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thats a sad thought DarkHunter....its not tough to keep a birds belly full.
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Really DarkHunter......I could swear I read it somewhere.....maybe I'm thinking of something else.......atleast I got the mccaws right, and if it is straight down the center and there is enough food take him to a vet. something is wrong, and it COULD be that they don't pay enough attention to him........
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Yvonne, unfortunitly ive seen it alot it is sad...sometimes its not that the owner isent feeding him enought its that hes feedig him to much of the wrong stuff...Cockatiels should be kept on a pellet based diet but make sure to offer them seeds too...any variety seed mix for tiels is good, Hagen is one of the better ones.

Sapphire moon...Perhaps your thinking Cockatoos they live upwards of 20 years though its closer to 40 or 60...possibly 80...\

The bird should be taken to the vet a very common problem in birds are crop infections more common in babies but i mean if he/she isent acting wierd maybe you just have an over active bird? Try offering him treats like crackers and some fruits (BE CAREFUL SOME ARE TOXIC!) this should help with the underweight problem! Hope it helps
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krrc,

If your thinking about getting a gold capped conure and your concerned about noise and attention DO NOT get a gold cap!!!They are very loud screechy birds and especially if they want attention! Cockatiels are an excellent choice as they are very friendly and not near as noisy as MOST of the conures with the exception of the green cheek conure which happens to be the quietest of the conures. Most birds require a fair bit of attention unless you keep them in pairs but if you want a personable,loving companion keeping a single bird is your best bet as they will more often than not prefer the company of another of their own species. There are the exceptions to the rule as I had one that wanted nothing to do with any of my other cockatiels and reqiured and demanded human interaction. The life expectancy of a cockatiel is on average 15 to 20 years with some making it to the 25 year mark.

If you've got a lot of time to spare and noise isn't an issue gold caps are very beautiful, playful,entertaining and affectionate when handfed.(and loud) The choice is yours so I hope this helped and good luck!

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I'm leaning tord the cockatiel now but I have one more question if they dont have the leg band what does that genraly mean? I thought it might mean it came from another sorce than a breeder?
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Ahh... cockatiels. They make good pets. Sadly, my brother left the cage door open when the cage was outside, and ours flew. (not very well, I might add) We have heard him around the neigborhood a couple of times, but he's always been up in a tree. Saw him yesterday and tried to get him to come down. He obviously recognised us but he flew away... I'm not sure if he meant to fly down to us but wasnt that good of a flyer, or he wanted to be free. Lol.. kind of sad. He looks pretty beat up. The good news is that he can fly a lot better now. But yea, they're better than many of the other pet birds i've seen. Get a nice looking one! ~TR~
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We have cockatiels here and it can get loud at times, mostly in the early morning cause they are used of coming out for breakfast. Our birds are our most of the day, they are clipped and very well mannered. They do whistle on occasion during the day back and forth to each other but not often. We have a couple that are noisier than other but some you barely hear a peep from. Of course the noisy ones are the males. We breed them and do not put bands on them. I was once told by a breeder of 30 some years that bands are not good for tiels, because they can don't make them small enough to go on their leg properly so they are lose and could be a danger to your tiel more than an asset. I have one recscu tiel with a band and I can see what she means, it is quite lose on him!
Here are some of our birds...

Mom and dad with babies. The babies didn't have all their feathers yet, that is why the yellow one looks bare around the neck.


Here are the babies at a couple weeks old.


and a little over a month.


Popa feeding babies.


ANd here is one of the babies (Alley, actually a male and loud mouth. lol) with my special needs tiel Quasi.
They love visiting each other!


ANd one of my favorite pics of Quasi. First time climbing a latter, he has mangled feet but that doesn't stop him one bit!

this is why he decided to go down the latter.


Before you decide you are definately going to get a bird make sure it is the right decision for you. They are a lot of work, they need lots of attention, and they bond to mostly one person. We have a couple rescues that love almost everyone, probably because they were neglected in their previous home and just love any attention! But we also have a couple that are bonded to just me, just my father and just my mother. (my parents live beside us in a douplex but we have access to their place inside the house, we are a close nit family. )
You will also have this bird for about 15 years if well taken care of and fed properly. cages need to be cleaned thouroughly every week and lots of toys are a must! Toys can get expensive for birds. Toys should be changed every few months for variety for your bird and must be introduced before putting in the cage or they could be afraid of it.
Tiels are by far one of the quietest birds I have known from working in an aviary for nearly 3 years. But again, they do have their very loud moments and this should not be taken away from them. IMO they should not have towels or blankets put over their cages eithor, some get more frightened as they feel they are being trapped.
If your bird gets night fright you will have to give him/her a nightlight. There are so many things to learn about birds I could go on and on, probably write a book.lol, Oh, look, I'm off to a great start! lol, Ok, I'm done now, one more thing, though, before I leave. Birds NEED routine! They can get stressed or cranky if you change their routine.
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