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Old 09-09-03, 10:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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He had alot of talent not just as a rapper but as an artist. I think he went out of his way to personify what being poor and black in America was. By doing this he could gain credibility among his peers and get them to listen to what he was saying. Kinda like, you got a be a thug to to talk to one and get them to understand. Not all of his stuff was like "hit 'em up". Take the movie "Juice" for example. Its a movie about a basically good kid that due to forces around him goes nuts. I think that's part of the message he's trying to convey. That without changes in social structure, things are always going to be the same and that you're gonna keep turning out the same type of situation from the inner cities generation after generation.
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Old 09-09-03, 04:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My opinion is that he was a great rapper and he is still alive somewhere. I mean wtf there are 10 thousand things which make me believe this. First off, how is he wearing fashions that just came out in his music videos? LoL
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Old 09-09-03, 04:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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are you talking about the video that he's wearing the Jordan's?? They were set to come out 3 months after the video was made.. But do you really think that people like him didnt have access to those things before the public did??
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Old 09-09-03, 05:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Oh, and I saw Elvis working at the Subway in Tweed...........
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Honestly, I don't think I can have an opinion about him because I don't know ANYthing about him, or his music.... or rap music, for that matter.... But I do know this:

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I don't like him because his rap was created for women to listen too!
That's a HORRIBLE thing to say! I'm not even an equality enthusiast, and that's just lame. Maybe that's joking or sarcastic or something.... or there's some kind of 'tupac..q?' inside joke there, but I don't get it if there is...

Oh sigh...

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PS - How come he's allowed to come back to life? That's not fair... I'm jealous.
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Old 09-09-03, 05:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Oh, and I saw Elvis working at the Subway in Tweed...........
LMAO, i thought i was the only one who knows where Tweed is..
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Tweed isn't far from here.

I miss the elvis from the bloor annex.
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Old 09-09-03, 07:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Matt, that too but there was also one where he was wearing a recent basketball jersy or something in the line of that. If you want to get into a full discussion i can tell you all the reasons why I strongly feel he is alive.
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Old 09-09-03, 07:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Ok I am going to tell you why I think he is alive whether you want me to or not, lol. For the record, I am not a big rap enthusiast or a gangster or anything like that, lol. I like his style of rap, and only those similar to his today. By that I mean like 50, Snoop Dog, Enimem, then their whole crew. Thats about the only rap I listen to. Anyhow, to start with, and I am only going to mention this vaguely, information on the shooting was little to none. There were no hospital photos, no nothing to put it frankly. In a lot of songs as well, he mentions wanting to be buried. Then why is it that they say he was cremated? Possibly to hide the fact that there was no shooting causing him death? Oh and directly related, since when is a murder victim creamated the very next day with no autopsy or anything of the like? If that isn't bad enough, press wasn't going to be allowed at the 'funeral', but then the funeral was cancelled. The reason for it being cancelled still hasn't been determined. My last point about the actual shooting itself is the following: a shooting involving Snoop occured really close to the release of his album Doggystyle. After this of course he had that image of being real 'gangsta' and made him appear more 'real.' The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. Interesting don't you think? I mean it's really stupid, this was a big rap idol, yet there was no investigation, no suspects, no nothing. Oh, I know I said that was it as far as the shooting goes, but there was one last point: as you probably know, Tupac always wore his bulletproof vest. Wouldn't it be stupid to not wear one to a huge public event like a Tyson match? Oh and otherthing. The shooters were in a white Caddy. They were black. There is only a small black community on the North side of town. This strip is only about eight blocks long. Vegas is a freakin desert, where could they have gone? Where did they hide? I know I keep saying its the last thing but I keep remembering other things as I go on. Pacs car got hit 12 times. Twelve times yet Suge Knight (the producer of death row records) was not hit once. Oh wait I forgot, he was 'grazed' by a bullet.

Ok now enough about the actual shooting itself. Tupacs soon after released another album which he named Machiavelli. He was an Italian war strategist who fooled his enemys by faking his death. Coincidence? The producer on the new Makaveli album is simply named as "SIMON." This was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge be SIMON? Inside the cover of 2Pac's newest album, it has written: "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. And Matt, with reference to the MJ shoes, your right, however in the same video he is wearing Penny Hardaway sneakers which were not available at the time of his death! Ok so I am sure any 2Pac enthusiasts who are taking the time to read all this have seen the music video "Smile" by Scarface and Makaveli. The video beings by showing a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in, and the car of course has bullet holes in it! Then you hear garbled words and then they show Makaveli up posing as Jesus Christ again. That's twice! Once on the album and now in this video. Finally, my last point, there are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up throughout his albums and throughout the facts of his death. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.: "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." Pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album, the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too. The album "R U Still Down?" was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! Honestly, what is with this? Las Vegas is a freakin payoff city. All sorts of people have been known to be on the take. This includes doctors, press, lawyers, witnesses, etc. Oh I forgot, there were no witnesses...

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Old 09-09-03, 08:53 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Excellent words gino! i to believe he will come back.

I took this saturday (13th) off just to see what will happen!

Hes coming BAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-09-03, 09:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Matt, Tweed is great, the fire hydrants, the Chip Truck across from the Petro Canada, the Live Bait vending machines in the grocery store parking lot. It's a great little............hamlet. I go through, and stop in Tweed every year on the way to our cottage in Pembroke.
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Awesome Mykee. I have about 10 uncles and Aunts that live out there and a few cousins.. I guess you could say the whole population of Tweed is related to me.. lol..

The Gino: The last i heard, there were Autopsy photos.. Anyway, here's something else for you to play with.. Scarface did a song with Tupac, two months After Tupac died, the video was made, in the video you see Tupac standing over his own grave with his hands on his forehead Just some fuel for your theory... Let the man rest in peace is what i say..
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No one would remember his name what you talkin about boy.

Bill oreiley says all rappers go away in 10 years tupac has been rapping for about 10 years. He will last for a lot more time also.
I mean who hasnt heard of tupac i only 5 people out of all the people i know dont know who he is and one of the kids i asked didnt know any celeberties names he didnt know who jim carrey was.

Created for women? Never heard of that buddy. Where does it say that. He directs some his songs directly to men.

Look at this i made this thread yestarday and its huge already sweet
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Old 09-09-03, 09:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 09-09-03, 09:25 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The gino im sorry but i have some stuff that can prove you wrong i have seen a hospital photo wait a lil while and ill give you the website the picture might have been removed becuase it was never supposed to leave the place it came from.
And he was shot twice one in the leg one richoched into the his right lung and they removed his right lung and he had a 50/50 chance of living But he could stull be alive but i doubt it man.


RED BOOTZ man you are cool. I love changes i love the quote instead a war on poverty they got a war on drugs so the polic can bother me What he was meaning there the cops were bein stupid like say yopu have a tumor instead of gettin surgery you take an asprin but you probly knew that,

Changes is my favorite song of tupac

EVERYONE A GOOD SITE FOR TUPAC www.hitemup.com
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