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Old 09-08-03, 04:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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There is no doubt in my mind that free handling hots is a really bad idea but saying that someone will free handle cause they saw someone on TV is ridiculous. If anyone can think of something they haven't seen done on TV or in a movie, I'd like to know. How come watching bob villa isn't making kids around the world install counter tops? People will decide what they want to do on their own. If anything, children that weren't aware that a certain snake being venomous, now know. I'm sure the kid that would have grabbed it, might think twice now. Don't get me wrong; if he used the proper equipment and didn't swing into a pond after a Gaboon, it would still be as interesting to watch. Unfortunately this kind of stuff (Croc Hunter, this guy, that other guy with the beard lol, etc...)is the only publicity out there for our hobby. Most of us never had programs like this when we were young and we still made our way into the hobby. There has to be some kids out there who see the positive side of what they're doing and understand that these people are professionals. Children will continue to pick up things that are dangerous to them. If a parent is worried that there child might pick up a deadly snake it is there responsibility to teach them about the local deadly snakes and how to deal with it if they come in contact. It seems ridiculous to think itís the responsibility of the television.
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. If a parent is worried that there child might pick up a deadly snake it is there responsibility to teach them about the local deadly snakes and how to deal with it if they come in contact. It seems ridiculous to think itís the responsibility of the television.
Given the ever increasing presence of television, and decreasing presence of parents...

Regarding Countertops: no, watching Bob Vila install countertops isn't going to make kids want to do that. But what about if he started tagging Norm Abrams with the nail gun?
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Old 09-08-03, 05:06 PM   #18 (permalink)
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LOL!@BP! My kid re-shingled our neighbors roof the other day because of that Vila jerk hahaha.

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While I agree that there is a decreasing presence of parents that fact cannot be blamed on Steve Irwin. If you want to blame someone for that blame the increasing greed of corporations that take 2 income households for granted when portioning out wages. It is truly sad that children these days see more television than parents but that does not shift the responsibilities of teaching children right from wrong or safe from dangerous from the parents to Steve Irwin or Steven Speilberg or Eminem. I wouldn't want any of them to have that responsibility for my kid anyway. Who wouldn't want to turn the nail gun on Norm Abrahms though? Or Bob himself for that matter? hahaha that show sucks
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I didn't for a moment mean it wasn't the parent's responsibility. I take my son (almost 6) field herping with me (and with BW Smith at that...). But we drill for weeks ahead of time on protocol, procedure, and behavior in the woods. He knows the rules and knows better than to break them. And despite being required to be last in line, the little monkey somehow always manages to find something before us. Do I let him watch Croc Hunter? Not on your life. No cable at all, for that matter, but that's an entirely different issue...

And yes, I'd love to turn the nail gun on Norm or Bob. And don't get me started on that Trading Spaces chick...I'd nail her good :P
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Old 09-08-03, 06:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ahh yes Trading Spaces where you can bring the excitement of watching paint dry (literally) home on your TV.

So you don't let your son watch Croc Hunter because you don't want him to imitating him in the field? I can see the logic in that if your son is in frequent contact or close proximity to venomous snakes. Not much of an issue up here in Canada haha. We have one surviving venomous species I believe and they are very localized and near impossible to find.
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I, personally, thought it was disturbing. He sure gives people the wrong idea about handling venomous snakes. From what one can expect from the airing of this program is "lots of inexperianced " wildlife photographers pushing their luck getting that great shot of venomous snakes.....too bad so sad for any advancement of understanding in the venomous snake public image....it seems that just when some progress is made some,"dink", puts it back ten steps...
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