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Old 08-19-03, 09:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think laws are too loose in general. I think if a VIOLENT crime is committed, be it harming/molesting/murdering an adult, child, animal, whatever, that person should be imprisonned accordingly.
Jails should be a little less like hotels, and jail sentences should be a little less like paid vacations and more like the prisons we see in movies like the Shawshank Redemption (short of abusing the prisonners themselves, of course).
However, one must acknowledge the fact that that isn't always possible. You can't infringe on someones written freedom because they have molested a child, which in the eyes of the law isn't all that bad. You definitely can't imprison them for life. And even if you could, there are so many variables a lawyer could play on to reduce the sentence. Rehabilitation is the obvious answer - turn criminals into productive members of society! But is that possible in most cases (one would think so - new systems of rehabilitation need to be worked on)? If it isn't, we can't possibly keep 250 rapists per 3kms in jails forever. There is hardly enough room as it is . The target should be schools and the homes of children. We should try and stop the problem before it arrises, because it's obviously far easier to prevent a rape than to try and rehabilitate a rapist.

Anyway, I did sign the petition, but online petitions aren't official and I doubt Holly's Law will be in place any time soon soon. Hopefully, though, her relatives can find solace in the huge volume of signatures, and that this petition will make way for severed laws.

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It was bad enough as it was, but then how he but her up into pieces and dumped her into a lake....thats even worse.
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The reason they have rights is because they my have not commited the crime

Jail has never Rehabilitated anyone you think sticking someone in cage makes then all better jail is used to scare people who would otherwise not hesisitate to do crime stop and think jail is about making examples of people not about rehabilitating them it scares them but thats about it
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Old 08-20-03, 12:35 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Bryce, actually there are many rehabilitation programs for prisonners. They have group sessions, work with therapists, some even train seeing eye dogs to learn to care about something that loves them back. While this therapy does not work on all, it definitely does work for many. The rate of reoffending is about 60%, so that means 40% are rehabilited (or aren't caught for other crimes). Which isn't great. but it's better than nothing.

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Yes they do have those programs but who wants to hire a ex con? I wouldnt ( I know they can get pardons but untill they are pardoned it still follows them)

I should have specifyed this but i was mainly talking about severe crimes 99% of crime that people are busted on isnt murder
Theft and drugs are the reason the main portion of people are in jail
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Old 08-20-03, 01:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yep, and tax fraud, whatever. But there are a lot of violent criminals in jail.

Anyway, usually a prisonner can't be let out on parole unless they have a job lined up for them. Prison employees can find them, there are employers out there who readily accept cheap laborers.

But I am strongly against capital punishment (someone mentionned it earlier). It costs millions of dollars to execute someone - and frankly it's an easy way out. Of course, death row itself is not pleasent. Sitting there for years, just waiting to be kiled *shudder*. But yeah, prevention is majorly the key.

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