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Old 07-27-03, 02:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It would've saved me a lot of frustration. I guess I am sharing this info, hoping that I can maybe save some frustration out there in the BP and in the Pit-viper community.
Dang thats why Im having such a hard time switching them over

Ok anyone know where I can get a teeny thermometer to make sure I have the right temps goin on here?



Well at least he figured it out anyway, although I find it amazingly unbelievable that he wouldnt have researched a little in feeding techniques. Especially if he is a member of a reptile forum. Im not knocking him one bit here Im just astounded how a person could aquire an animal and not do some simple research. He must either be very young or joking.

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I like the name "40 Watt" for this guy.. he could be a rapper with that name.. like "50 Cent"! lol.

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Yeah I answered that post on that other forum..... Not too bright......
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I don't think anybody's being mean-spirited. I just think his post is being misinterpretted (over and over and over) Yes, I realize that maybe he should have figured this stuff out, BEFORE he started collect gaboon vipers and whatnot, but nonetheless, there's dumber things he could have done....at least he didn't put the mice in the mircowave, right?

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I think that guy meant that after he thawed out the rodent, he super-heated it with warm water. Its a well-known husbandry trick that is in at least 8 well-respected herp books. When I feed my snakes, I sometimes have to feed 60 adult snakes in ONE night. After I get through about 35 feedings, the F/T rodents are more room temperature. Fine for the colubrids, but some of the Boids won't strike at it. So I re-heat it in warm water.

So now let me ask you, am I a novice that shouldn't be giving advice? Do I know nothing about snakes? I'm VERY interested to hear your response.

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Old 07-27-03, 09:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Jeff--
I dunno...he said that his other snakes ate "cold" food, which leads me to think that they, while probably not solid ice, were not well-heated.

I'm not really sure I understand your question? Are the grounds for your statement that you know nothing about snakes that you reheat for prey in warm water? If so, I don't think that's a comparable situation since the awareness level is different between you reheating a prey item that you knew should be hotter but just got cold b/c of the logistics of snake feeding, and someone who just realized that their snake prefers warm food to cold food, ya know?

I may be misunderstanding what you're getting at...
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i always put the mouse in fairly warm water right before i feed it to the snake. enough so that it is warm to the touch.
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I'm not sure I understand you. Why "should" the rodent be hotter? I never said that it should be. As long as there is no ice, I see no reason for it to be "warm".

Having said that, some snakes (usually Pythons) have a better feeding responce to 80F + prey items, in my experience. So i sometimes re-heat them. My point is, its a VERY useful husbandry trick that's in a great number of Python books, and is used by some of the top breeders in the world. Its nothing new, but at the same time, its definitely not a technique that deserves to be ridiculed.
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I'm shocked that this guy is handling hots! He's liable to end up dead.
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Give the guy the benifit of the doubt yes. But even I, Who knew NOTHING when I got my first bp, knew that I had to heat up the prey item before the snake would take it.....come on now, it's not that hard to figure out!
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.... i dont think i need to respond the this one.
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Jeff - I think lilyskip interpreted that he was feeding barely-thawed prey to his snakes. Which isn't so bad, except that he is attempting to keep hots and classifies them along with his BPs.
I don't think she was insinuating anything bad about heating up prey. At least I don't think so?

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First off Food Doesnt NEED to be warm. colubrid's dont have heat pit's but warmer food increases the smell so its more likely to invoke a feeding responce. but food doesnt need to be warm to get snakes to take it. its a method used for pickyer feeders
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Old 07-28-03, 06:13 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Zoe--yeah, exactly. we *should* be heating up prey, which is why I thought it was so funny that this guy has at least three or four snakes (one of which is a hot) and was JUST figuring out that the prey should be warm for his pits. Thanks for interpreting.
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Hey RaVeNo,
You have GABOON written under your name....... Do you keep gaboons???
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