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Old 07-05-03, 08:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'd go with the geckos. With a tank that size you could put in a nice group of leos.
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correction: 48 long 20 high 13 deep
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Old 07-05-03, 08:56 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Ah you could definitely put a corn snake in there! They make great pets... cute, inexpensive, tame, good feeders, easy to find, some in all sorts of colours!

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If you want to handle you pet, then amphibians are defintiely out of the question. As for the poison dart frogs, your dad has no reason to be nervous about them, captive bred darts have no poison, they get their poison from what they eat in the wild I am gonna have to go with the above statement of perhaps a cornsnake, milksnake, kingsnake, spotted python, children's python, rosy boa, or sandboa. The milks and kings are loads more active and can be a bit skittish sometimes, they don't usually bite, but they do musk.
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Old 07-06-03, 12:41 AM   #20 (permalink)
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hhmmm empty tank syndrome. That is a nice size tank, you could do a lot with it.
What kind of expense are you looking to put into a pet? how much do you want to spend monthly on it's care and feeding? Do you want to get something that needs a uv light and uv bulbs? Do you (or your parents) have a problem with feeding rodents or bugs? Or keeping bugs in your home?
Do you want a pet you can handle a lot?
Do you want something with plants in it or a more desert setup.
Do you want something that has to have a water area in their tank? Or high humidity?
I think it would probably be best to make a list of things that you and your parents are willing (and able) to deal with and then check out all the care sheets you can find to see what is best for you.
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Old 07-06-03, 01:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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okay so "what kind of expense are you looking to put into a pet?"
up to a few hundred for the entire setup hopefully way less.

how much do you want to spend monthly on it's care and feeding?
I make 10 dollars a week allowance so about 30 a month

Do you want to get something that needs a uv light and uv bulbs?
no preferance

Do you (or your parents) have a problem with feeding rodents or bugs? Or keeping bugs in your home?
no problem at all

Do you want a pet you can handle a lot?
Definatly

Do you want something with plants in it or a more desert setup.
either but I would rather have plants

Do you want something that has to have a water area in their tank? Or high humidity?
no preferance
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Old 07-06-03, 02:27 AM   #22 (permalink)
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i say make an all natuarl tank im just finishing my one its 4 feet long by 2 tall by one foot deep and it has a ruiing river sytem waterfalls a lilte pond abd evreything lol i dont know what to put in it yet
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If you get a corn/king/milk snake, this is the cost you're looking at:
say 60$ (possibly less) for the animal, 5$ for substrate, 10$ for a heat pad or basking lamp, 20$ for hides and branches and a water bowl, and 5$ for a regular 40W bulb for light. Allow an extra 30$ for other expenses. Not very expensive.

It'll cost a few dollars a week to feed... between 50 cents and 2$ a week depending on size. Plus paper towel and water.

They don't need UV light.

You can definitely handle a corn snake. Kings and milks tend to be more skittish but can be tamed.

You can give corns a nice set up with plants and bark mulch. Not desertic.

They don't need too high humidity, just spray a couple times a week. No biggie.

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I would get a ball python,read the caresheets,there on the home page,but do LOTS of re search before you go out and get a herp...
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three more things. I was looking at pictures of corns (thats most likely what I'll get if I decide on a snake) and the volcano corn looked really cool. Is this any different than other corns? two, someone mentioned a community tank of lizards. what could this include and is there something i can make or buy to keep them from scratching the tank? last, I also have a 15 glass tank I might set up in addition to the 55. I'm guessing I couldnt have a snake in there but are there and small lizards I could put in there. thanks
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I'd go with crested geckos. They're cute and fairly easy to care for.
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If you want something you can handle, leopard geckos and fat tailed geckos are hardy (with proper care) and become quite tame. Bearded dragons are great but an adult would find it a little narrow being only 12" wide. Corn snakes would also be a good bet and they come in many different color morphs. It would also make a terrific planted terrarium. Already having the tank is a good start but depending on what you decide on there will be additional expenses such as heat lights, full spectrum UV bulbs, possibly an under tank heater, etc. That brings up another point, I think under tank heaters would be OK with an acrylic tank but I"m not positive. Does anyone have any info on that? The most important thing is to do lots of research. Read books, visit web sites, and find a good pet store with clean enclosures and knowledgable staff. Hope this helps. Have fun deciding:-)
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I would sell the tank if I could and build a 4X2X2 melimine tank
then you have Soooo many options
clawed lizards will scratch acrillic it may not be deep but its deep enough to make 1000's of little white scratches

If you cant sell the tank and want a snake you could get a Corn, King, Ball python ,Hog nose, childrens/spotted python, milksnake
Thats all I can think of off the top of my head
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I was just looking at some sites and saw that both the russian and kenyan sand boas are small. could I put 1 or two of these in a 15 gallon? If so, which is better, are they easy to care for, and can you handle them often? thanks again
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Yes a volcano corn is the same as regular corns. Corns come in billion different colour and pattern mutations... volcano is jsut the name of one of them. Click <a href="http://www.cornsnake.net/new/cornprice.php3">here</a> for a bunch of different morphs. As for your question on sand boas... kenyans are probably the best tempered of the two. Sandboas are great pets, they don't get large and tolerate handling very well. They are very easy to take care of as long as they are feeding well. I wouldn't recommend keeping two snakes together however, especially a 15 gallon is too small. You can keep one in a 15 gallon. Housing multiple snakes however, even ina large enclosure, isn't a good choice IMHO. Snakes are solitary animals and only come together in the wild for breeding. They egt stressed out by the company of others, as well as if one animal gets sick the other may too. In addition, it becomes difficult to monitor the animals, if one regurgitates its food overnight, how will you kow who it came from? and so forth...
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