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Old 06-16-03, 02:44 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I still hate rattlesnake roundups you can't change that... you should stop trying to convince people they're not that bad. I've seen so much crap about roundups it's not even funny. Even the zoo's all around the state don't support them because they're so cruel and sickening.
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Old 06-16-03, 02:50 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to convince anythign I'm just saying that people that dont know what really happen shouldt say or insinutate they do and that the roundups are god in their own ways. Also that all these people are talking about how horrible they are and not oing anything about it which in my onpnion is just has badd thats like watching a murder then not doing anything which is illegal[ accomplich to murder]. I am a hyocrit i never said I was't. THeir badd yes but it wouldt be as simple as some think to stop them and its would effect people that dont deserve or want to be in this fight.
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Okay maybe I am trying to convince things but thats not a crime everyone else is trying to convince to!!!
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just stop wasting your time, okay
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I dont have to, what does it matter to you? I stoped posting then people kept on tryng to argue with me. I cant control myself!!!
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I have an idea lets go kill dogs, round them up from the kennels and after we do a good presentation on how we should respect dogs lets skin them or chop off their heads. "well how bout that? sound like a rip roarin' gooood time to me! yup.." ........................
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Old 06-16-03, 07:47 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I know of a few people that would show up, give me the time and place and I'll pass it around. Though I dont think I will be able to show up blood makes me queasy!!!
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Know your audience. Just for the record, some of us DO actively work against them. I have rescued Diamondbacks from them. I have had them call me to pickup rattlesnakes. I have talked to coordinators about viable alternatives. Work is being done. Many have been stopped here in Georgia.
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Okay then I admit that was rash and some of you do actively take part in saving the snakes. But the majority don't, I know the roundups are horrible but alot of you made rash comments withoput taking in to considertaion what actually would happen if the roundup[at least here] were shut down. BUT I HATE THEM THE SAME!!!
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And some of us have been around the block a few times. Not everyone here is just a keeper of a couple snakes. Many of us are the "old timers" and are very active in many facets of herpetology and conservation.

There are many rammifications to ending each roundup, both financial and tradition. But they has been ended, and will continue to be ended.

But if people REALLY want to help stop them, hit the sponsors, not the roundup! Send letters to the sponsors, they are the money behind it. As long as these fuel the economy of these small towns, they will continue to be. Federal compensasion has to be given to them. And they are more likely to bargain with the feds if they are losing sponsors.
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branding parties really arnt that bad.
branding cattle is all part of the ranching business. Though there are some that dont, when you own a large ranch in the middle of no where , there are scumbags that go in and steal cattle, and its a lil insurance for some ranchers. as for being hogtied. well, tryin holding a calf and branding it.. lets see how well you do. its no easier than tattooing id's on your dog . a lot of people are doing that now a days.
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As for the whole dog round-up thing. It does happen to a degree in Spain. They breed dogs similar to greyhounds for hunting. Train them, and then after hunting season, they are strung up on trees, skinned and left to die. Pleasant, huh? Any way, my point is that we are human. As humans we do many horrible things. Not just to aminals, but to each other. I agree something needs to be done, but I believe it needs to start with the human race. How can we be expected to treat animals fairly and humanely when we can't even do that with our own species? Just my thoughts.

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"3. the snakes are milked and their venom is used for antivenom making and medical research."

If this hasn't already been said..........What academic, medical or corporate buyer in their right mind would purchase venom from a rattlesnake roundup? This is not professional grade venom and it is only milked to produce a "show" and give the public the perception that something positive is coming from these foul events.
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You are correct Tad. But they still glorify the milking during the show. You should have heard some of the lies spewing from the milker.
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