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Old 05-22-03, 06:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-03, 06:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Were you not previously saying that you lacked time to care for even one more time consuming aninal?

And you do realize that you won't be able to keep anything that goes against your bylaws without a permit.

I'd also revise the spelling on the site.

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I have other peopel to help me its not just me. And nothing goes angainst my bylaws in the firstplace and then i simply wont keep it but on my own land i could have a elephant and not have apermant and they couldt say much as long as i treated it good.
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Actually that's not true. You could own land, but if its in a specific area you could most certainly NOT house an elephant.

Farm animals must live on farm zoned land I believe. And many cities ban a lot of snakes. Not saying anything IS banned where you live, but it has nothing to do with it being YOUR land.

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So you really think you have the time, money and capability to take care of hawks with broken wings, 25ft mean-as-hell retics with RIs and shed problems, a giant rattler with mouthrot, even starving lions with serious mange? To train animals so they can be released into the wild?

This is a big thing you're attempting start - it's NOT something you can do half-assed then drop a month later when you get bored or broke. Not only are animals depending on you, but sick and perhaps dying animals. You'll be spending way more on vet fees than you'll ever get from selling the animals - if you even can.

I'd give way more thought to this project before starting a hometown.aol.com/.../.../.../.../ website filled with typos.

I'm not trying to insult you, but I really doubt you've put much thought into this. This isn't a "oh! lots of people will bring me their high-end animals that I can spend 10$ of vet fees on and then sell for thousands." type of thing. Much of what you get, you won't be able to sell for a profit, if at all.

However, if you have the funds and proper facilities to back it, not to mention time, manpower and lots of experience, then go for it. Lots of unwanted animals need homes.

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Old 05-22-03, 07:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I agree with Zoe ..........I just read a post last night and you said you had no time for handeling you reptiles. And now one day later you seem to have all the time in the world. Your idea is a thoughtfull one but like Zoe said it take's Money,and the capability to care for these animals. What about all the equipment that you will need and the knowlage of a vet to give the care that some of these animals will need. This idea you have is not something you wake up to and say "hay" i'm going to open a shelter. Think about it I have been around reptile's for a very long time and keep many large snake's even a few Venomous snake's. And yet there is still alot i need to learn and have help with you said you need help on how to tame down you little Iguana. Well if you need help for something like that how in the world would you help a 25 ft mean as hell Retic or others like Zoe said. The bottom line is i think you should really think about this a bit longer and harder. I don't mean to slam you in all of your post's but you bring it on your self with what you put in your post's I hope with what every one has told you in this post that you will get the point and see that maybe you should think of the thing's that was mentioned.
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Old 05-22-03, 08:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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For the 1st thing this is not just me its other people to that will and want to help. And I doubt that we ever get anything of the animals you just described and theres no vet in my area that even near qualified to work on anything but dogs cats and livestock. Thats why I started this thing to try and save what animals I can. As for marissa i dont know where you live but here in texas as long as your out of city limits and you own the land or have permission by the owner you can do absolutely whatever you want. Theres even Brothels here on peoples land and the cops can;t and won't do a thing about it.
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Well if there is no vet's qualified for animal's like we mentioned then what make's you think that you are qualified and what make's you think that animals like that wont show up at your door when you have a shelter no animal is refuesed you just cant pick and choose what you will take in and one more thing you said at first that (YOU DECIDED TO OPEN A SHELTER) you did not mention anyone else Well all i can say is good luck you will need it.
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Old 05-22-03, 09:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If you don't have a qualified vet near you.... how are you going to nurse sick animals back to health? I'm under the impression you have no animal medical training, so just how are you going to determine what is wrong with any "rescues" you receive and just how are you going to rehabilitate them?

Just curious...

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There are federal laws that can and do affect the type of animals you keep, under the Fish and Wildlife service, and believe me, with no qualified vet on staff or retainer, they can and do shut down rescue operations if there are not people with the proper veterinary care background capable of treating injured, abused and neglected animals. Texas may have laws through either their Department of Agriculture or their Fish and Game Commission as well.

Be careful what you get yourself into! You really should contact federal, state and local government and ask what permits and credentials you need before you go advertising a rescue.
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Just to shed some light on your idea. As for opening a shelter that you and some of your buddies will run, is this the same group of friends that mangled the corn and smoked the blood?
A week ago, you were all hopping to round up and slaughter thousands of rattle snakes, you have an out of control baby iggy, and you have absolutely no time on your hands. But suddenly, you have all the time and resourses to open a rescue shelter? Never going to happen.
To begin with, you need a business license, access and training for dispensing meds, loads of money to build this said shelter, and yes, you will have to find more time to find people to give the shelter donations. Shelters are run soley 99.9% of the time on public donations. Do you have any of this all planned out?
I think you should hang onto your idea, and get some education and experience in herpetology first before you try and open a shelter that is destined for failure. There are many shelters in your area, so why don't you spend the next two years or so volunteering at one of those first, and if you still feel that your shelter idea is still an interest of yours then, well go for it.
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.. Wouldn't he need a rehab. premit and don't the process include having a qualified vet, Proper check ups of housing and vet care? Also, Texas laws ARTICLE VII
PROHIBITED AND EXOTIC ANIMALS Section 7.01 Definition of Prohibited Animals
8. Order Proboscidea (elephants);
Plus I'm sure you'd need USDI/A permits to keep them. Plus Zoning doesn't exclude land ownership. If it disturbs other people that are willing to fight then you're in for more than you can handle, most likely. Do rehab permits exclude Falconry, Import/export and CITES papers? Just a little thing one running a shelter might come across. Plus I'm sure you will use a different building (possibly a new built one) and if so I think you will have to register a new building to the city ordinence and tax commission. Or something of the sort..
The thing is, just because you own your land don't mean you are free to do as you pleaseand are you physically ready for this?
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I never said I did't have time to handle my reptiles what i said is I didt have alot of time. Would you rather let all the animals suffer and die then get what help they can, honestly I'm not trying to be an archangel here but something has to be dont you havew no idea how mad the animal rescourse here is. On the site it clearly states we assept most, most meens not all anything we can't handle we will simply recomend them to somone you can help. Anf you really think there are animal contol laws, there are peopel I know of that live right outside town that have lions, tigers, & bears quite literly and have no liscense and no-one has evr said anything to them. My family is half the law in the town. You dont need rehab or any of that stuff its not a have to. Those laws that prohibit exotic animals only effect the city limits. Also no permit is required go ask almost any founder of a shelter I've asked many of them and theve all told me the same thing yopu need no liscenses or permits. Those frinds that did that to the snake I havet talk to sice and know these people have never even mett those people. I wast hopping around to collect anything the RSRU was about 4 months ago dude i just said it wast as badd as people said it was and its not without it the Rattlesnake population would grow to high and pose a threat to society[as if it does'nt alredy]. I may not have thought of all the deatils but I will and with my frinds help I ccan do anything.
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I never said I did't have time to handle my reptiles what i said is I didt have alot of time.
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Bam! Exactly. You just said that you DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME. You walked right into that one.
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he said he (himself) doesnthave enough time. but he also saidther epeople helping him so the no time issue may be irrevelent depending on how many people are helping him and how many animals he is taking care of.
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