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Old 04-29-03, 05:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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elephant trunk snakes??
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Old 04-29-03, 06:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks hip, I had scoured the internet and that one always comes up first. So far Living Snakes of the World is the only one I won that has any info on them. Most of the care info contradicts each other.. UGHG!!
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Yes, Rachel, same thing. Java File Snake, Wart Snake or Elephant Trunk Snake. With so many common names, you can see why with obscure species they are generally referred to by the Latin name.
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Hello I wont be of much help, but aim more then willing to share what I know about them, I kept a total of 6 of them, my first experience was with a pair of adults, they never feed and died within a few months, then I got 2 babies of the banded phase (donít know if itís the same species?) they took gold fish and frogs, I kept them a full year in brackish water, then sold them. The last time I got a pair was semi adults of the regular phase, they took months before they started feeding on frogs and minnows, they whoíd also accept dead rodents but apparently not floating just when sink to bottom, much like scavengers feeding on decaying prey.
I never read about them, but I do have a theory about there breeding, I presume them to be live barriers and annual breeders, there breeding may be timed with the rain season (monsoon) when water ph becomes more alkaline, providing a friendlier environment for new babies witch can also be true for a number of prey items.
I came to this idea studying ways to breed the fly river turtles, hopefully this helps you, they are bizarre snakes I especially find them weird when picked out of water, there just spaghetti but in water they can strike very fast, one thing I never new are they venomous? I must have handled 50 adults freely.
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Thank you very much. I have not read anything to indicate that they are venomous. They have been referred to as a link between ancient snakes and colubrids. THey are live bearing. These were born on April 19th (my birthday ) The female is approx 6 feet and dropped 18 babies. She was imported gravid. The young were sexually dimorphic in their patterns. The females were spotted and the males all had distinct stripes running latterally.

They are currently in a quarentine tank at about 77 degrees with some decoration to hide in and hold on to. I added some salt as well, but not enought o make it brackish. The new tank is set up with a sand substrate, multiple dense foliage, sticks and a cave. There are several "stups" coming out of the water and the top of the cave for them to climb out if they are so inclined (young MAY do this I read). A Whisper filter is installed to minimize stress from vibrations with a rockunder the flow to minimize current. I set it up sot hat the ambiant water temp is at about 81. I am now dropping the temps to match the temp tank and will raise them again and the salt content once the snakes are there so it is a seamless transition for them. After the temp and salt content are satisfactory, I will raise the PH in the water.

We'll just see how it goes form here.

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Old 04-30-03, 05:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I must have some photos of them and set up, but I didnít find them, I use to keep them exactly like my diamond backs, year round and same water.
Winter the water was about 65f and 80f in summer, the shelf you see on this photo was covered with 1-2in of water and had a 25watt basking light, they whoíd bask there frequently and use this shallow to catch fish, the temperature at this basking site was about 90f year round. I never used substrata but regularly dropped aquarium plants in there, at times I use plastic plants, and these guys are kind of hard on plants. Filtration was fluvial 203 fixed as to generate minimum currant. 2 of my snake developed chronic prolapsed when defecating, I tot this to be associated with heavy feeding of rodents, perhaps these animals have slower metabolism similar to emerald boas, or maybe they just donít have the ability to digest mammalians prey, never hade any problems feeding fish or frogs, minnows where favoured over many fish but produced foul smelling stools.
My first pair developed skin fungus when kept in fresh water, this fungus is fist noticed around eyes and nostril. This first pair was maintained at 88-92f I think this is why they died. At that time there was close to no information on this specie and I donít think you will find much on them now, this why aim trying to remember everything about them, if it can help you in anyway. Someone told me they whoíd eat falling chicks, also a dealer from Jakarta warned us that his employee had a swollen hand for several days after a bite, witch created a panic at the shop and to ad to this a water monitor was fond dead the next day after receiving a bite, so was it the snake? Nobody really knows but we never freely handled them ever since. As I reread this post I realise this isnít much information, aim sorry I wish I could help more, these where not my cup of tea, they where boring to keep for a then young herper, only now do I realise there uniqueness and perhaps see them in a different way.
Good luck with them and hopefully you will be the first to really breed them, as I know itís never been don. Pleas keep me informed.
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