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Old 04-19-03, 07:30 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Well I'm glad you KNOW that she enjoys that. I guess we can now call you the Snake Wisperer.
Can you come over and tell me what my female Ball Pythons are thinking and why they aren't ovulating yet? That'd be nice.



This is all I was saying jeff, I agree that the forums are for people to get together and discuss issues I didn't say that it wasn't, all I was saying is that there is no reason to be ignorant, you made your points (I actually agree with you!) but there is no reason to be rude about it!
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But sometimes if you don't point things out blatantly, people don't get it.

Even still, sometimes they miss it.
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Just as an update. I took her, it was great, the only other snakes I saw there were bp's (3 others), and the SW Herp Society was there with some iguana's and turtles. All in all a good time.

Jeff, I don't appreciate your sarcasm; I don't post on these boards to get chastized.
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I don't get it.

Do you not like the way I worded my reply to your query, or do you not like the fact that it wasn't what you wanted to hear?

You came hear asking for advice and opinions on taking a Ball Python out to a picnic thingy. People gave you advice and great discussions were had and people probably learned a lot. But instead of saying "wow, I never thought of that" or "that's something I should consider", you decided to argue. And now, when you don't like they way people back up their claims and state their points, you tell them you don't "appreciate it".

Well that's something I don't appreciate.
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Old 04-20-03, 10:01 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Jeff,

Isn't this the very same type of thread that contributed to the hiatus? Pick and choose Jeff, pick and choose.
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I think the point that is important is that no snake "enjoys" doing the things we do, no snake can even understand he is in a cage, he cannot fathom that idea. They just don't have the mental capabilities.

And as this is true, and we humans often put our own emotions to animals that simply cannot have them...we should all think about this when doing something with our snakes we "think" they will enjoy.

My point? Sure take your BP to something if it will have no ill effects on health, but at the same time don't assume he thinks he is at a party. Assume things off facts. Fact, BPs live in borrows in Africa. Fact: they live to survive, live to eat, sleep, grow and breed. Period. As long as you use facts for the basis of reasoning when trying to figure out if something is good for your snake, then I personally feel it will be o.k. But when human emotions such as "enjoy" "like" and "fun" are brought into the mix, things are no longer based on the animal, but on the person.



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Thinking about it again Trev. Wondering what the heck public forums actually have to offer anymore.

Marisa: Hoy moly that was an excellent post! No joke. You rule.
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Old 04-20-03, 03:56 PM   #38 (permalink)
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good to see u back in the frame jeff, and good work marisa.couldn't have said it better myself!
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Agreed, very well saind Marisa. I also find that people try to apply too much human comon sence to the herp world.
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