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Old 12-06-17, 11:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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And don't do repeated food offerings as all that will do is reinforce refusals. As long as the animal has the proper enviornment and temperature, humidity consider a 7 to 8 day offering. Keep fresh water available so the animal can drink and soak. The cloaca is like a sponge and as the animal soaks he will take in water.
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I will try not to talk about Brian Barczyk because that's not what this question was about, we can have a separate topic about that later. I don't see any major husbandry issues with your snakes enclosure. I would however recommend that you lower the humidity in his cage to ~65%. Colombian rainbow boas are well known to thrive in humidities much lower then what you would supply for a Brazilian raibow boa. This probably wouldn't cause the snake not to eat, but high humidity could cause a respiratory infection later if not dealt with properly. It looks like you provide a light in your snakes cage, may I ask what kind and how often is it on?
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I will try not to talk about Brian Barczyk because that's not what this question was about, we can have a separate topic about that later. I don't see any major husbandry issues with your snakes enclosure. I would however recommend that you lower the humidity in his cage to ~65%. Colombian rainbow boas are well known to thrive in humidities much lower then what you would supply for a Brazilian raibow boa. This probably wouldn't cause the snake not to eat, but high humidity could cause a respiratory infection later if not dealt with properly. It looks like you provide a light in your snakes cage, may I ask what kind and how often is it on?
Statements were made during the flow of the thread that I felt the need to address and they centered around BHB. There are issues the OP wanted answers to and several members addressed them. 65% humidity percentage for a hatcling / juvenile Columbian Rainbow boa is too low, period. They don't thrive in sub optimal humidity percentages. It actually can contribute to inappetance as well as other illnesses. I'm pretty sure that I am staying on topic.

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Statements were made during the flow of the thread that I felt the need to address and they centered around BHB. There are issues the OP wanted answers to and several members addressed them. 65% humidity percentage for a hatcling / juvenile Columbian Rainbow boa is too low, period. They don't thrive in sub optimal humidity percentages. It actually can contribute to inappetance as well as other illnesses. I'm pretty sure that I am staying on topic.
Colombian rainbow boas are well documented to be good in humidity levels of 50%. I would never advocate this, but they are well known to thrive in low humidity situations. 65% would be fine for a hatchling but if you are uncomfortable keeping them in this low humidity, 75% would be a good choice. Just make sure the humidity never gets below 65% and never gets above 85%. Colombians are a lot tougher then Brazilians and will not die in this low humidity.
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I'll post a picture when I get home from work today, but I can give you some info on how it's setup until then. Its a 10 gallon glass aquarium with a mixture of cyprus mulch and sphagnum moss as the substrate (about 1 inch so he can burrow). The humidity in my house is already 60-70% so by misting in the morning and night I can keep humidity constantly above 80%. Yes I am aware that glass tanks aren't recommended, and originally I had him in an 110 qt rubbermaid tub but I temporarily moved him to the smaller glass tank to help him feel more secure, and I'll move him back to the tub once he gets a little bit bigger and starts eating. As far as I can tell he isn't loosing any weight, I don't have a scale to measure though. One thing I have noticed is that he's not really using his mouth at all. He's almost too docile I guess? It's hard to explain. When I first got him he snapped at everything that moved, but now, he wont even attempt to bite me If my hand is right in front of his face. Usually you'd consider this a good thing, but its got me worried there might be something wrong with his mouth or jaw. I also almost never see him out of hiding, and I've never seen him drink or soak in his water bowl. For heating I've got 2 small zoomed heat pads covering about half the cage, but they don't heat the cage up enough so I've also got a purple/red heat lamp pointed towards the hot spot. All of the heating equipment is connected to a thermostat set to 85 F. Oh, and every time I try to offer him a mouse, he runs away from the mouse and tries to get out of the enclosure. I'd assume this is stress related? I've got 2 hides, one log hide on the warm side, and one DIY hide made out of tupperware with a fake plant inside of it on the cold side.
Does he flick his tongue? As I mentioned below my pair are 5 years old, I've only seen them drink a handful of times and yawn a couple times after eating in that time. Mine also do not soak, so I wouldn't worry about not seeing that behavior. They are very secretive, they will hide most of the time and typically come out at night. As far as being bitey, mine are very docile as well. When they first arrive they tend to be more defensive since its a new environment, everything is different and it will take some time to adjust. What are the temperatures in your house? I keep mine at an ambient around 75-77 (room temp) with a hot spot at 84. They hardly use the heat. Personally I might ditch the lamp if I were you and only use the heat mats, as long as your house stays a decent temperature. Are you offering food during the day or at night? When you offer food, try just poking the mouse into the hide so he isnt disturbed too much, and make sure the mouse is warm enough. May be a silly question but can I see a photo of the size mice you're offering compared to the snake?


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I will try not to talk about Brian Barczyk because that's not what this question was about, we can have a separate topic about that later. I don't see any major husbandry issues with your snakes enclosure. I would however recommend that you lower the humidity in his cage to ~65%. Colombian rainbow boas are well known to thrive in humidities much lower then what you would supply for a Brazilian raibow boa. This probably wouldn't cause the snake not to eat, but high humidity could cause a respiratory infection later if not dealt with properly. It looks like you provide a light in your snakes cage, may I ask what kind and how often is it on?
I'm disagreeing with this. I have kept my colombian rainbows in 90%+ humidity their entire lives and never an issue. They are now going on 5 years old and currently breeding. RI and scale rot comes from soaking bedding and unsanitary conditions. If OP can maintain high humidity without soaking the substrate the snakes will be fine. 50-60% is too low for a juvenile rainbow boa no matter the species.
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Ok sorry for the delay in answering. Had some stuff going on. The lamp is just a metal lamp I picked up from home depot with a 75W night time heat bulb in it. I'm using the lamp because the ambient temp in my home is usually only 69-70, and the heat pads alone can only heat the hot spot to around 75-76. The lamp allows me to hold the hot spot at around 85. It is controlled by the thermostat just like the mats, so it turns on and off periodically. I am trying to feed white fuzzy mice, I've tried ones that were about 2-3 inches, and ones that were a little smaller. Neither have shown any interest. I feel if I took a picture the camera would make the mice look bigger/smaller than they actually are. If my house was hotter, I wouldn't be using the heat lamp, but my family prefers the temp to be around 70. I try too feed only at night time and heat the mouse up prior. Yes, he does flick his tongue.
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Ok sorry for the delay in answering. Had some stuff going on. The lamp is just a metal lamp I picked up from home depot with a 75W night time heat bulb in it. I'm using the lamp because the ambient temp in my home is usually only 69-70, and the heat pads alone can only heat the hot spot to around 75-76. The lamp allows me to hold the hot spot at around 85. It is controlled by the thermostat just like the mats, so it turns on and off periodically. I am trying to feed white fuzzy mice, I've tried ones that were about 2-3 inches, and ones that were a little smaller. Neither have shown any interest. I feel if I took a picture the camera would make the mice look bigger/smaller than they actually are. If my house was hotter, I wouldn't be using the heat lamp, but my family prefers the temp to be around 70. I try too feed only at night time and heat the mouse up prior. Yes, he does flick his tongue.
If you can I would advise leaving your heat mats on the thermostat and putting your lamp on a tabletop dimmer so that the temperature is steady and the lamp won't be turning on and off, the constant on and off can cause your bulbs to blow very quick. I guess my main advice would be to cut back to offering ever 7 days and if you are really worried you can try live. Try leaving the mouse in the enclosure overnight as well, he may be a little shy and not want to eat around you. I ask for a photo of the mice next to the snake to see if they are too big or too small for the snake is all.
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Any update, tried feeding again?
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So, I’ve got some good news, well I guess you could consider it good news. After offering a mouse today after waiting a week, he ran away from it as usual, but then an hour later I found him soaking in his water boal shedding his skin again. That explains a hell of a lot. He had already shed once 2 weeks ago, so I’m suprised he went into shed again so quickly. That might explain why he hasn’t had an interest in food for atleast the last week. I’m gonna try again in 2 days and see if he accepts the mouse now that he’s shed.
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So, Iíve got some good news, well I guess you could consider it good news. After offering a mouse today after waiting a week, he ran away from it as usual, but then an hour later I found him soaking in his water boal shedding his skin again. That explains a hell of a lot. He had already shed once 2 weeks ago, so Iím suprised he went into shed again so quickly. That might explain why he hasnít had an interest in food for atleast the last week. Iím gonna try again in 2 days and see if he accepts the mouse now that heís shed.
Oh, can't believe I forgot to mention that. My male doesn't eat in shed anymore as well as one of my other snakes. I was surprised he wasn't eating cause everything seemed good except the repeated offerings. I hope he eats for you now!
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If he doesn't eat the mouse try a different prey, like rats or chicks, some snakes prefer them over mice.
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