border
sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum
 

Go Back   sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum > General Information Forums > Food For Thought Forum

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-18-17, 02:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Aug-2015
Location: Louisville
Posts: 473
Country:
Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

This is a first for me. I got a month's worth of mice for my animals and they didn't look terrible when I got them. There was no blood on them and the limbs were intact. It wasn't even obvious when they were frozen, but as I started to thaw a few out for feeding I noticed they all had disgusting abscess that goes straight through the body cavity. Blood and guts were everywhere and they smelled terrible. Needless to say, I didn't feed them off. But I did thaw out the rest of my package and out of 15 mice, 9 of them had this. And it's not like they were all the same age either. Out of them, I had fuzzies, hoppers, and small adults. This abscess was present in all of them. I threw out all the bad ones and I'm changing where I get my feeders, but does anyone have an idea what's going on? Because I don't.

Tiny Boidae is offline   Reply With Quote
Login to remove ads
Old 04-18-17, 03:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Feb-2017
Posts: 468
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

Who is your source to begin with?
__________________
0.2 Boidae | 2.4 Colubridae | 1.1 Pythonidae |3.0 Canis lupus familiaris | 1.0 Homo Sapiens Sapiens Stupididae
Scubadiver59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 03:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Aug-2015
Location: Louisville
Posts: 473
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

Oh sorry. I guess this shouldn't be surprising, but I'd gotten these mice from a local pet store. It's a Feeder's Supply.

Edit: I also should add that I've bought my feeders from them for about 4 years and this is the first time this has happened.
Tiny Boidae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 03:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec-2014
Posts: 427
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

I will make a guess: Decomposition.
I don't know if all the breaking down inside the rodent is enough to cause enough gas to explode through broken down tissue, but mom mentioned something like that happening in her time as a paramedic. I think. Fuzzy memory.
REM955 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 03:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Aug-2015
Location: Louisville
Posts: 473
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

This was a brilliant moment on my part. I think this was entirely my fault. I usually thaw them by just setting them out for a few hours, but very recently I began putting them in hot water to thaw. I didn't think the water temperature really mattered, but a short Google search told me otherwise. My bad, carry on with your day. Nothing to see here.
Tiny Boidae is offline   Reply With Quote
Login to remove ads
Old 04-18-17, 05:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
Forum Moderator
 
Minkness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec-2014
Location: middle tn
Posts: 4,170
Country:
Send a message via Skype™ to Minkness
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

My pinkies and fuzzies always do this...what does water temp have to do with it?
__________________
"THE Reptiholic"

I stopped counting at 30....
Minkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 05:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Aug-2015
Location: Louisville
Posts: 473
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

I googled various answers and they said various things about water temperature. I didn't really put much thought into it- I just put hot water from the faucet in a cup with them. It's just never happened to me before, not even with the fuzzies and the adult mice did it too.

Last edited by Tiny Boidae; 04-18-17 at 05:55 PM.. Reason: Hit post before I sent it
Tiny Boidae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 06:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
TRD
Member
 
Join Date: Dec-2016
Posts: 250
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

I use hot water too, just from the tab... never saw anything even remotely close to this.
TRD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 08:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Feb-2017
Posts: 468
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

Mind you I've only been doing this for about eight weeks now:

1. I thaw in the fridge
2. Bring to room temp (75F)
3. Heat to 105F
4. Deliver to snakes

Steps 1-3 are just like preparing any steak, filet mignon for me, but the rest only pertains to the snakes!

Only time I've had a near burst, or a "fall apart at the seams", was when I left it in the zip-lock bag for an extended period of time. Then it left a snail trail when the snake took it, but it still took it!
__________________
0.2 Boidae | 2.4 Colubridae | 1.1 Pythonidae |3.0 Canis lupus familiaris | 1.0 Homo Sapiens Sapiens Stupididae
Scubadiver59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 08:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec-2002
Location: London
Posts: 2,808
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TRD View Post
I use hot water too, just from the tab... never saw anything even remotely close to this.
Same here.
Andy_G is offline   Reply With Quote
Login to remove ads
Old 04-18-17, 08:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 
GyGbeetle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec-2016
Location: AZ
Age: 43
Posts: 558
Country:
Send a message via Yahoo to GyGbeetle
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

How hot is your tap water? I use hot water from the tap, and this has never happened to me. Holy cow! Or holy rats!
__________________
2.5 BCIs, 1.1 BCAs, 1.1 tiger retics, 0.1 Burm, 0.1 Woma, 0.1 Colombian rainbow boa

But if anyone asks, I only have 1. The rest just showed up for the house party.
GyGbeetle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-17, 09:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
MM1
Member
 
Join Date: Jul-2012
Posts: 154
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

Yeah that's never happened to me. My guess would be they weren't handled properly before getting to you.
__________________
0.0.1 Epicrates Striatus (obtained as a juvenile in 1982 and still ticking)
MM1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-17, 04:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Aug-2015
Location: Louisville
Posts: 473
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GyGbeetle View Post
How hot is your tap water? I use hot water from the tap, and this has never happened to me. Holy cow! Or holy rats!
It went up to 132*F when I measured it. I mean I was planning on ordering online soon anyways, I guess I'll just start doing that from now on and hope this doesn't happen again.
Tiny Boidae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-17, 05:01 AM   #14 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec-2015
Posts: 1,510
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

I looks as though perhaps an air pocket has heated and expanded and blown out.

I used too hot a water once and it cooked the mouse so now just thaw out at room temperature and then run under the tap to heat for those snakes that prefer warm prey.
__________________
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but you do not know why. Often these happen together, nothing works and nobody knows why. - Arihato
dannybgoode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-17, 05:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
Member
 
SnoopySnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun-2013
Location: Flint
Posts: 2,205
Country:
Re: Seriously gross. What's causing this? (Graphic picture)

I also use hot water, never had this happen. Closest thing to it was me forgetting a rat in water...come back a few hours later and picked it up and my finger went through its stomach. Could they possibly have been thawed and refrozen?
__________________
1.1 Columbian Rainbow Boas | 1.0 White Lipped/D'Alberts Python | 1.1 Bredli Pythons | 2.1.2 Gargoyle Geckos | 1.1 Leopard Geckos | 1.0 Cat | 0.1 Boxweiler | 1.0 Human
-Adrian
SnoopySnake is offline   Reply With Quote
Login to remove ads
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:30 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2002-17, Hobby Solutions Inc.

right

SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0