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Old 02-03-18, 03:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Two words...carpet python .

j/k GTPs and ETBs are both stunning snakes. Either one would be a great addition.
Ok I will go research carpet python are there any others I should look into or any other boas? Do carpet pythons like to climb as well? I would like to stick with something similar in size to the brb or maybe a little smaller like 4'.
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Thank you so much that is what I wanted to know I love those snakes they are so beautiful both of them but I want to be able to handle my snakes and not worry about cleaning and what not. 😥
So you let 2 people with zero hands-on experience talk you out of wanting these species that quickly??
Do some more research if they are really something you may want.
I also have no hands-on experience, but have known people who handled theirs without hesitation during the day. They did say nighttime was a different story though.
Do yourself a favor, dive a little deeper into your research if this is something you may really want.
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So you let 2 people with zero hands-on experience talk you out of wanting these species that quickly??
Do some more research if they are really something you may want.
I also have no hands-on experience, but have known people who handled theirs without hesitation during the day. They did say nighttime was a different story though.
Do yourself a favor, dive a little deeper into your research if this is something you may really want.
I don’t want to talk Shauna out of keeping them. The question was if either Morelia viridis or Corallus caninus could be handled on a regular basis and that’s what my advice was all about, to not try to handle them frequently. During daytime doing maintenance in the enclosure shouldn’t be a problem and getting them out if you have to is no big deal most of the time, depending on the individual snake you have.

Just keep in mind that daytime is the time of day they use for rest/sleep, so disturbing them means disturbing their sleep and causing additional stress for them, so I would only do so if I had to. That’s what I meant with “display only” snakes.

BTW, the episode about biting through gloves was from a keeper of Corallus caninus, not Morelia, I mixed this up yesterday.
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So you let 2 people with zero hands-on experience talk you out of wanting these species that quickly??
Do some more research if they are really something you may want.
I also have no hands-on experience, but have known people who handled theirs without hesitation during the day. They did say nighttime was a different story though.
Do yourself a favor, dive a little deeper into your research if this is something you may really want.
Ok well for starters I didn't exactly say I wasn't still thinking about it. I really think that is what I want and of course I will do more research lots of research. But I will research others also. Which is the smartest thing for me to do because I won't be getting a temporary baby. Animals are for life and I want to make sure that whatever I decided to do is going to be a good fit for me.

Thank you Roman for that correction. 😃
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Ok well for starters I didn't exactly say I wasn't still thinking about it. I really think that is what I want and of course I will do more research lots of research. But I will research others also. Which is the smartest thing for me to do because I won't be getting a temporary baby. Animals are for life and I want to make sure that whatever I decided to do is going to be a good fit for me.

Thank you Roman for that correction. 😃

Glad to hear it. I just felt like you may be missing out if you just let a few comments steer you away from something you may potentially love. Do your homework and only you can decide what's best for you. Good luck and keep us posted
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I have never had an emerald tree boa. I did however have a few Chondros years ago. I had an Aru female that was puppy dog tame. She was easily removed from her enclosure and would just hang out on you or wherever you put her. But as stated above, after dark was no no time. They go in feeding mode and should be avoided.
My biaks were a different story, pretty sure they were crossed with a tokay gecko or a demon at some point. Typically local does make a difference with attitude and gtp's but remember every individual can be different.
As neonate you want to avoid handling much because they are very fragile.
If you are really interested in getting a chondro I highly recommend getting a book called "The complete chondro" or its sequel "the more complete chondro". Both are excellent sources of necessary information and they dispel a lot of myths regarding these interesting snakes.
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Glad to hear it. I just felt like you may be missing out if you just let a few comments steer you away from something you may potentially love. Do your homework and only you can decide what's best for you. Good luck and keep us posted
I understand I apologize if I sounded snooty and it will be quite awhile before I decide what I'm going to do but I will definitely keep you posted.
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I have never had an emerald tree boa. I did however have a few Chondros years ago. I had an Aru female that was puppy dog tame. She was easily removed from her enclosure and would just hang out on you or wherever you put her. But as stated above, after dark was no no time. They go in feeding mode and should be avoided.
My biaks were a different story, pretty sure they were crossed with a tokay gecko or a demon at some point. Typically local does make a difference with attitude and gtp's but remember every individual can be different.
As neonate you want to avoid handling much because they are very fragile.
If you are really interested in getting a chondro I highly recommend getting a book called "The complete chondro" or its sequel "the more complete chondro". Both are excellent sources of necessary information and they dispel a lot of myths regarding these interesting snakes.
How old are they to be considered a neonate? Do you happen to know why are they so much more fragile then other snakes? I will definitely look into finding those books thank you for the information.
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How old are they to be considered a neonate? Do you happen to know why are they so much more fragile then other snakes? I will definitely look into finding those books thank you for the information.
It is not necessarily an age but a size thing. When they are little their spine and tail is very small and fragie. That coupled with the way they attatch to their perches can cause injury if removed incorrectly. Also, never purchase a young gtp (less than a year) that has been sexed. Sexing can also injure them when they are that small.
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From what I read, they have a different bone structure that allows them to lock into positions while in the trees. As small snake they are easier to break if they are uncoiled by a handler. That may be off base but it's what was explained to me. I know enough about these to know I need to buy the book before I buy the snake.
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I understand I apologize if I sounded snooty and it will be quite awhile before I decide what I'm going to do but I will definitely keep you posted.

No worries and no apology necessary.

I've just seen it happen before that people were "talked out of" getting a certain species, and ended up regretting their decision and wishing they got the snake they originally wanted.

I just encourage you to do what is best for you and your potential new pet.
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So you let 2 people with zero hands-on experience talk you out of wanting these species that quickly??
Do some more research if they are really something you may want.
I also have no hands-on experience, but have known people who handled theirs without hesitation during the day. They did say nighttime was a different story though.
Do yourself a favor, dive a little deeper into your research if this is something you may really want.
Just to clarify, my comment wasn't intended to dissuade her from getting either of the two snakes that she mentioned and if it appeared that way, my apologies. I intend to get at least one and possibly both of them and in the process of doing my own research on keeping them.

It is my understanding that both of these types of snakes CAN be very aggressive and TEND to be seen as difficult snakes to care for for that very reason. I think that to go into keeping one of these snakes with the expectation of it being puppy-dog tame is unrealistic. A lot likely depends on the individual snake. Can it happen, definitely! But the people I have spoken to, whose judgement I trust, have warned that they are more difficult than, say, a BRB or Red-Tail.

There is a breeder called Zoodreams on instagram and they specialize in arboreal snakes, such as both of the snakes in question. They have beautiful specimens that they handle frequently in their videos. It's awesome! Their experience is obviously much different than those of my friends that own these snakes!
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It is my understanding that both of these types of snakes CAN be very aggressive and TEND to be seen as difficult snakes to care for for that very reason. I think that to go into keeping one of these snakes with the expectation of it being puppy-dog tame is unrealistic. A lot likely depends on the individual snake. Can it happen, definitely!
If you read either of the two books I recommended (considered the bibles of gtp's by many) you would likely change your opinion on that.
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If you read either of the two books I recommended (considered the bibles of gtp's by many) you would likely change your opinion on that.
Just bought the More Complete Chondro online.
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