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Old 11-12-17, 10:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy feeling guilty about feeding

Hey, Im planning on getting either a kenyan sand boa or a hognose soon, this will be my first snake and Ive done research plenty of research for months and I believe that I am extremely qualified to own one, I'd be the perfect owner if it werent for the fact that I feel bad about feeding. Don't get me wrong, I know that these snakes require rats and mice etc as part of their diet and I biologically cant, and wont change that, but having owned a hamster I feel like I'd probably cry every time I'd feed. Does anyone have tips or tricks to get over this? I want a snake and I dont want to be sensitive towards feeding

another question which Ive debated with a friend, is that they say feeding a few pinkies is equivalent to feeding a mice, which in my opinion isnt true but ive never owned a snake so I can't be completely sure.

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Old 11-13-17, 10:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: feeling guilty about feeding

You should always feed the appropriate sized meal for the animal. Pinkies lack some nutrition as they have no actual food in their stomachs, no fur, and their bones haven't hardened yet.

As for gett ing over feeding, you should feed frozen thawed anyway. Just do it, cry if you have to, because after the first few times it won't feel so bad.
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Old 11-14-17, 12:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am a fairly new owner of a baby kenyan sand boa, and I completely understand what you mean about feeding. I also love all animals and have owned rodents in the past. It seems like a hard thing to think about, however once you own the snake, the thought of giving a mouse for food becomes much easier because all you can see is a hungry little animal who I am sure you want to keep happy. Once they are your pet and you form a bond with them, you will do what it takes to keep them healthy and happy. I can say that from experience because I swore I would never feed a live mouse, however when my baby KSB was refusing to eat, I had to resort in feeding him live pinkies. I wasn't thrilled, however it got him to eat which made me happy in the end. The best piece of advice I have is to try and get it to feed in it's enclosure or a separate container (whichever you prefer) and just leave it in there with the feeder and walk away, that way you do not have to participate. HOWEVER, you should be prepared that if that does not work, you may have to participate and do the zombie dance with the feeder.

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Old 11-14-17, 12:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: feeling guilty about feeding

Serious question - do you eat meat? If you do do you think about the cute little animal now sat on your plate?

If you just view it as food then try and view the rodent in the same manner - it's just food.

Detach yourself from what it was to what it is.
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You could always get a a snake that eats bugs or fish or toads....etc. Some are hard to get and care for.
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Old 11-17-17, 12:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone! Live feeding is definitely my last resort and the hardest thing to do, but I guess anything other than that I should just view it just like a piece of meat that I eat daily! Can't wait to get my little noodle
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I am a fairly new owner of a baby kenyan sand boa, and I completely understand what you mean about feeding. I also love all animals and have owned rodents in the past. It seems like a hard thing to think about, however once you own the snake, the thought of giving a mouse for food becomes much easier because all you can see is a hungry little animal who I am sure you want to keep happy. Once they are your pet and you form a bond with them, you will do what it takes to keep them healthy and happy. I can say that from experience because I swore I would never feed a live mouse, however when my baby KSB was refusing to eat, I had to resort in feeding him live pinkies. I wasn't thrilled, however it got him to eat which made me happy in the end. The best piece of advice I have is to try and get it to feed in it's enclosure or a separate container (whichever you prefer) and just leave it in there with the feeder and walk away, that way you do not have to participate. HOWEVER, you should be prepared that if that does not work, you may have to participate and do the zombie dance with the feeder.

Best of luck!
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Old 11-17-17, 12:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Honestly, feeding was hard for me starting off as well, it is a shame because I actually like mice and rats. I look on it from the point of, if you buy them humainly killed with carbon dioxide it helps to know they never expierenced any pain. Make sure you buy frozen thawed, that helps starting out as well. At this point, even though I still like mice and rats my love for snakes has suppressed that, and you will eventually get past it. I look forward to feeding my snakes, it is one of the main reason, if not the main reason why people keep snakes. Point is, if the mice or rats never feel pain, it would be okay with me. This is the best advice I can give starting out. But for me, my love for snakes would put me to start feeding live to some of my more picky animals. But most snakes, especially common ones like Kenyan sand boas will regularly and happily feed from frozen thawed mice in captivity, just make sure to dry them off to avoid substrate from entering the snake. (This usually doesn't matter if your animal is healthy).

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Old 11-18-17, 09:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Everything that lives does so at the demise of something else -- simple fact of life. Even if you do not eat meat, you run over animals driving. Even if you do not drive, animals are plowed over, poisoned, trapped, and their habitat destroyed forever reducing the carrying capacity for certain species to provide you vegetables and grains. Every snake that lives does so by consuming prey items. The prey items in captivity would never even have had 1 second of life if people didn't keep snakes and birds of prey to give someone a reason to breed them.
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Old 11-19-17, 04:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm one of those that keeps pet rats AND snakes that eat rats. I never feed live rats--just can't do it--and don't breed them for the same reason. I feed frozen / thawed rodents from Big Cheese Rodent Factory. Once I got over the "OMG those poor little critters!" reaction upon first seeing ratscicles and mousescicles and started regarding them as pet food it was easier. I love my pet rats and see them totally differently than I view the frozen ones in the package that are food items. I have to or I couldn't feed my snakes.

I used to feel just as bad for the mice until I tried breeding them just because we HAD to save money somewhere. They weren't like our clean, smart, friendly rats at all. They were little savages. They bit, they pooped in their food, one female bit the testicles off a male, they reeked and were none too bright. But when my husband came home from a job and started choking from an allergic reaction I had to kill the entire breeding colony. I didn't think I cared but I still cried. Not sorry to be back to buying F/T, though the sticker shock is still a factor. Oddly enough DH isn't allergic to our rats.

Anyway, it does get easier with time and desensitization.
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