[Stockwell]

The first one is definately a California coastal.
What does the belly look like? The belly pattern can tell alot in rosies.
The high orange makes it look like a San Gabriel, but it should have lots of orange on the ventrals if that is the case.
The second snake looks like it could be a cross.
If it weren't for the uneven stripes, I'd say it was probably a mainland triv, but it looks like it could have some Arizona rosy in it.
Arizona rosies have black flecks on the edges of each ventral scale which makes a train track pattern down the belly. This may be reduced or absent in crosses