There's a huge difference in being fit and adding lean muscle tissue etc etc than the type of people I was talking about. I was talking about the EXTREME people (ie juice monkeys) who would strut into training camp thinking that they owned the place, only to be gone 5 days later with cramps, muscle pulls, fatigue, etc etc. It was funny. I admire people with talent and natural ability. I don't care if you go to the gym 10 days a week and your biceps have little biceps. Vanity never sat well with me. And it never will.